The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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Christ the Lord Is Risen Today[edit]

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  • Reviewed: Psalm 149
  • Comment: For April Fools Day, which also happens to be Easter

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 11:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC).

  • Article is almost ready to be accepted: meets expansion date requirements, as well as sourcing and image licensing requirements. A QPQ has been provided as well. However, I can see some run-on sentences and typos in the article, such as "the later unknown" which should be "a later unknown", or a lack of commas in many sentences. Once these issues are addressed, this will be approved. As a Catholic myself who just got confirmed today, this will be a wonderful hook for both April Fool's and Easter. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
@The C of E: You missed some, like how "1780 however" should be "1780, however", among others. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:46, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have fixed it now. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 13:54, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@The C of E: One last note: remember to add a comma or semi-colon before every "however", whichever fits. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Done. Can you add the tick now please? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 14:42, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Another user has copyedited the article and fixed the remaining problems; as such, this is now passed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:31, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

You shouldn't be restoring a tick over somebody's objections. This project operates by consensus, not fiat. Regardless, I think perhaps you are right that the quickest way of resolving this would be to take it to WT:DYK for further discussion, so I think I will do that. It might have to wait until tomorrow though because I will probably be logging off shortly. Gatoclass (talk) 13:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

And while I'm at it, I might as well propose a straight hook as indicated above which I think would be fine to run at Easter:

My suggestion: ... that the "Llanfair" tune commonly used for the Christian hymn Christ the Lord Is Risen Today is named after Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:04, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

No thank you, that doesn't focus on the target article at all and what on earth is april fooly about it? Thanks to all for their input but I am happy to stick with the originals as passed according to policy. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
But the community is not happy with it so it won't run. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure that this nomination shouldn't just be failed outright The C of E, given that you've provided no explanation for why you thought it was fine to delete a large chunk of the previous article prior to expansion in violation of the rules. Care to explain how you justified that? Gatoclass (talk) 11:06, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

I seem to recall I did it because it was WP:UNSOURCED, so I removed it in line with the policy. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:21, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I'm going to overlook it this time, but you are a veteran DYK participant and should know better than to make such a mistake. I think I should put you on notice though that I intend to fail the nomination if I see the same thing happen again.
Now with regard to this nomination, I don't believe either of your proposed alts will suit as they don't represent empirical facts sourced within the article. TRM's alt, however, does, so I still believe we should go with that one - assuming of course, that you are able to legitimately expand this article by another 2600 characters or so, which you haven't done yet. Gatoclass (talk) 12:46, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
I have made the required expansion now. As for the hooks (Which should still include an element of April fools), how about ALT5 ....that Christ the Lord Is Risen Today which is done on Easter? or ALT6 ....that Anglicans and Catholics start saying Alleluia again when Christ the Lord Is Risen Today? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

ALT5 isn't even grammatical, and neither ALT5 or 6 qualify as April Fools hooks. Something along the following lines might work though:

@Gatoclass: I am fine with that. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 18:48, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks The C of E, I have struck the other hooks since we seem to have found one we agree on. I am still thinking about how we might tweak ALT7 to make it a little more interesting though, if I can't think of anything I'll ask for a review of it as is. Gatoclass (talk) 06:35, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
I had a look at ALT7 only, and don't support the pipe link to something that looks like a fact, nor the pipe link of the town. Word something - and it doesn't need to be April foolish for me if you want my support. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
I am perfectly happy with Gatoclass' ALT7. That is the one that I feel should run. I'm afraid I don't want to change that, I feel it is a sufficent compromise from over the last 4 months. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Approving ALT7, the rest of the review as per previous reviewers. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:10, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
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