Forever Young (horse)

Forever Young

• ... that Forever Young (pictured), who won the Saudi Derby, is owned by Susumu Fujita, who is known for a horse racing mobile game called Uma Musume Pretty Derby? Source: https://www.nikkansports.com/keiba/news/202402250000020.html
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Thank you everyone for revising the article. If Forever Young wins the UAE Derby on March 30, 2024, it may be good to change the hook from Saudi Derby to UAE Derby.

Created by NinetyNineDragon (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Forever Young (horse); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• • Comments: Well done for creating such an article. However, to make this article more presentable as I mentioned in the Talk area of the article that the Japanese references in the article need to be replaced with English. Both JBIS and Netkeiba have English and can readily be used as references.
  • The statistics needs to conform to what is used in the English wikipedia space. There are columns with abbreviations which as specific in Japanese form reader but for the US/English make no sense. Also the odds are not displayed as payout coefficients. Margins are in lengths or part of horse's posture (head, neck, nose etc...) Brudder Andrusha (talk) 21:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
    • First of all, thank you very much for revising the article. The quality of the article cannot be decent without your help. Second, may I know whether there are any rules stating that English references are better than those which are not in English? For articles about Japanese stuff, isn't that Japanese references are more accurate and relevant?
    • Third, for your comment about the abbreviations in the statistics section, could you provide some good articles for my reference? You may guess that I am not that familiar with horse racing from my contributions (but obviously someone with limited knowledge cannot write this article). NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
• This is a comment and not a review, but even as someone who's watched Uma Musume, I'm not a fan of the hook. It's more about Fujita or even the game itself than the horse, and the guidelines say that hooks that are only tangentially about the bolded article should be avoided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  • I believe the hook is definitely not tangentially about the article. The information in the hook is completely mentioned in the headline of the source (the Nikkan Sports article) I put above. I guess not everyone here knows Japanese so let me put a rough translations of the headline here: "[Saudi Derby] Uma Musume's Fujita Susumu Got First Overseas Graded Race Victory, Owns Forever Young '[I] won'". If you google Japanese news articles about Forever Young, you will find it is not rare for them to mention Uma Musume at the same time.
  • If you think it is not generally interesting enough, is this better to you:

  ALT1: ... that someone wants Forever Young (pictured), the winner of the Saudi Derby, to be turned into a horse girl because he is owned by the CEO of CyberAgent? Source: https://www.inside-games.jp/article/2023/12/13/150914.html

  • NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I mean, even the source you provided (or at least the quote) focuses on the owner and not the horse itself. Having said that, ALT1 might be better and address my concerns, but the wording isn't the greatest given how vague the word "someone" is in this context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

• Full review needed, including hooks. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

• I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 10:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - ?

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - ?

Overall: Thank you for this positive article about a racehorse. The picture is nice, too. Just two issues:

• Earwig picks up only one phrase: the track record for the distance by about two seconds. Please rephrase it, to avoid copyright violation..
• Hooks: ALT0 is fine. We are talking about a racehorse here, which is not a person or a pet. In this context it is a sports icon and the property of an investor (Some of us may not like that, but that's not the point. The point is the facts). So we must compare it to articles about racing cars, racing bikes etc. where riders, owners and winnings get all the attention. In ALT1, the word "someone" is a bit weird, even a bit creepy. Maybe name them - or at least their trade or position?
• Re article content: notability for this subject seems to be about the winning record, which is a good one in this case. and the winnings are tabled in full in the article. So no problem of content there.
• I have given the article a minor copyedit, which does not affect DYK.

If you can resolve the above two issues, then this nomination should be good to go. Storye book (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)