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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

The creation of the violin[edit]

Hegedűs Cigány Fiú (Gypsy Boy Fiddler) by György Vastagh
Hegedűs Cigány Fiú (Gypsy Boy Fiddler) by György Vastagh

Created/expanded by NearEMPTiness (talk). Self-nominated at 14:59, 4 May 2016 (UTC).

This needs more copy-editing. For example, the title of the article needs work to make it clear that it's a story title and not actually about the real creation of the violin. And there's an obvious typo "d' something". The key blocker is that the hook seems unacceptable. It seems too subtle or allusive and, even within its own frame of reference, it doesn't seem to make sense as it was the violin that had not been seen before – the current wording seems to suggest that something else came from this.

As the article is translated from German, it may have lost something in translation. I'll see what I can do to help.

Andrew D. (talk) 13:02, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Andrew D.. Thank you very much for your helpful feedback. I will try further improvements by end of June, after focussing on some some real life priorities. NearEMPTiness (talk) 21:52, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I have started copy-editing the page and have changed the image to one which seems more thematic. Andrew D. (talk) 08:26, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced, but you should put "something that nobody had seen before" in quote marks like I have. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ done and image properly licensed. I agree that the article requires copyediting; if improvements must wait until the end of June, I say submit the article to WP:GOCE and let them get on with it.--Launchballer 07:49, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your help and recommendations. As proposed, I have entered this article to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Requests#The_Creation_of_the_Violin. NearEMPTiness (talk) 11:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson: and @Launchballer: The article has now been copy-edited and is ready to be presented on the main page. NearEMPTiness (talk) 04:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Alternative hooks:
  • Striking ALT1; it has the same general problems as the original hook that was pulled before the C6 issue was mooted. Removing duplicative "the" in ALT2. (Also fixing the formatting of the bold links; the original hook had it right.) BlueMoonset (talk) 00:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Good to know, Random86. Thanks. I've adjusted the hooks accordingly, including ALT6; the double quotes should be outside the bolding per WP:LEAD. I also added "that" to both ALT5 and ALT6. Finally, I've fixed the article, which incorrectly bolded the double quotes. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:27, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

"Comment The text that supports ALT6 is "playing the violin to make people happy or sad as Matuya laughs and cries into the instrument" 7&6=thirteen () 13:15, 6 July 2016 (UTC)