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Added a reading time indicator to the sandbox, see Template:Essay/sandbox. Got the idea from stumbling across Wikipedia:Advice for RfA voters and thought including reading time on some pages might be a good idea; essays seem like good initial candidates. Unfortunately, no function exists to get the readable prose (in characters or words), so this can't be calculated automatically, although a bot could perhaps do it and update templates periodically. Medium uses 265 WPM as their default when showing read time. [1] Especially helpful for newer editors imo. Thoughts? (ping Sdkb, as you've done work elsewhere for new editors' accessibility) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:41, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
@Moxy: Where is the consensus for this edit? Per WP:TPECON, you should know better than to make substantive changes without discussion, let alone to do so without using an edit summary. The change is not an improvement in my view — it messes up the formatting, makes the line you changed redundant to the last line, and introduces a second link to WP:CONSENSUS which is unneeded. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 06:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Should the template also clearly note, "This is not an encyclopedia article," similarly to what Template:User page does? Some essays receive incoming traffic from search engines (probably due to the lack of standalone articles covering the topics in Mainspace), and this appears to cause some confusion. (I noticed this from WP:Chesterton's fence. I've added a hatnote there, but maybe a general warning is warranted.) --Paul_012 (talk) 02:08, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
I think the fact that essays are not guidance is something that newer editors often miss, since they don't bother to read the fine print in this template, just the bolded part. Any idea on how we might remedy that? We have room to make the bolded part a little bit longer if we can find a concise way to communicate there what essays are and are not. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 18:24, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Please could you update: "It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors." > "It contains the advice or opinions of one or more editors."
"editors" versus "contributors" score (to make realize overwhelming "editor" usage, and thus that "editor" must be privileged). Some examples:
Wikipedia:Essays: 8 x "editors" versus 0 x "contributors" (I edited the page to add 1 x "contributor"; to state "contributor=editor")
Category:Wikipedia_essays: 141 x "editors" versus 2 x "contributors"
Wikipedia:Wikipedia_essays: 6 x "editors" versus 2 x "contributors"
Wikipedia:The value of essays: 5 x "editors" versus 0 x "contributors"
Wikipedia:The difference between policies, guidelines and essays: 9 x "editors" versus 0 x "contributors"
Wikipedia:Don't cite essays or proposals as if they were policy: 5 x "editors" versus 0 x "contributors" + Template:Essay 1 x "contributor"
So there are over 2000 essays. Most of them showing only 1 occurence of "contributor" on their page (because of Template:Essay transclusion). This can "confuse" newcomers, readers, non-native English speaking people if they don't know that "contributor=editor". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoine Legrand (talk • contribs) 11:09, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
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and in general to communicate clearly. On the question of "contributor" vs. "editor" in this template, I don't have a strong preference, but I think "editor" might be mildly better than "contributor". However, given that this is a mass change and that you've been getting some pushback (or at least queries) from doing it elsewhere, I'd like to see evidence of consensus before implementing. Also, despite the link to the centralized discussion, this is still somewhat a WP:TALKFORK, and it might've been better to bring it up at the other page and just put a ((Please see)) here. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 17:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)