By popular demand, this is archive 8, which is May 8 - July 13, 2005
Hi, I've expanded the article somewhat since Peer Review and would be grateful if you had time and inclination to run an eye over it before I go to WP:FAC. Thanks Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:38, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
You're a jackass. Karatloz 11:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Hey, it's me Karatloz. That wasn't me that called you a jackass, it was my stupid friend. Thanks for noting that my contributions were worthwhile. Anyway, I was looking at my past contributions and it appears my account has been "hijacked" more than once. I'm not going to tell anyone my new password! Karatloz 16:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Maybe not, since the novel doesn't have an article, and in fact isn't even mentioned in Willy Kyrklund? Or maybe not at the top (though that is where I've seen a few of these dabs, I'm pretty sure)? In my world, this is a well-known novel, I was just listening to a good reading of it on the radio. Anyway, I'm unsure of the principle, please rv ad libitum. --Stalker | talk 16:38, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Goodness... you want to take a look at what's happening there? --Bishonen | talk 20:04, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Just to let you know that this is now on WP:FAC. Thanks for your Peer review input. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:23, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your FAC vote, improvements to the article, and kind comments. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:03, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
The chief evil of colonialism is that it goads a subjugated population into purchasing its own goods back from its subjugators, at a marked up price. You grow the coffee beans, they roast them, and you buy coffee from them and can't have any to drink otherwise. The US made Sly and the Family Stone and Motown. It should not be asked to buy them back in the form of fey hat-without-a-head Britpop, and, if any of its citizens do, the subjugation is only ignorance and the force of historical blindness. Grrrr. Geogre 01:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for notifying me of this. I will have a look at it ASAP.--Wiglaf 14:09, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
FWIW, I don't think you don't come off as hostile in VfD. The problem as I see it, is that some people interpret tone where none exists. In any case, I find your VfD comments helpful and informative. --Viriditas | Talk 00:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
Geogre, I need your help. Vandals have been vandalizing my userpage and I find myself unable to revert it for some reason. They vandalized your userpage as well, which is reverted now. They have also vandalized Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Grandma Butter Chicken. I need someone to block the three IPs concerned. They are listed on WP:VIP. Sjakkalle 11:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
That was some ugly juvenile vandalism. Kids these days... Zocky 11:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
I have played Ten Thousand Dollar Pyramid to find out more about Sam Slocum. I think I have found some google hits about the guy, but under the name Samuel Slocum, I have made some changes to the article. Can you take another look at it? Sjakkalle 07:04, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed you have previously been involved in editing this article, and it is currently being worked on to try to raise it to FA standard. If you are interested in helping improve this article once more, see here. Harro5 00:15, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
I've completely redone the Punkas article. I hope you have the time to check it. It may not be as much a candidate for deletion as it previously was. Tx.--McDogm 20:29, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Nice start! Oh, very well, I'll do a plain vanilla short drama section from Hume's Development of English Drama if you like, I don't really have the heart to stand by and look at your foot sticking out from Danny's pile of bricks. 1660—89, you say? OK, got it. I appreciate that some eggs need to be broken to make this omelette. 1660—89 takes out the flowering of the drama in the 1690s, but I'll mention that it's out, lest readers be nonplussed at not finding Congreve. Bishonen | talk 07:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Hey, there's no consensus about what years "The Restoration" covers as a literary period (or as anything else). During the FAC discussion of Restoration comedy, I researched how, specifically, people defined the period in the phrase "Restoration comedy", and easily came up with this lot (quoting myself some): Restoration comedies are comedies produced in 1660—1668, 1660—1682, 1660—1685, 1660—1688, 1660—1700, 1660—1702, 1660—1710, 1660—1732, or 1660—1760! None of the suggestions are made by "fringe" scholars. IOW, there's no consensus, pick what you like, state your definition, and go with it. (The list doesn't even contain your 1660—89, but of course 1660—88 is merely synonymous with it, for obvious reasons.) As you know, I picked 1660—1700 for the comedy article, reasoning that it would be the most encyclopedic and least idiosyncratic option, but the others all have merit, too. Please note also that if you're not talking about Restoration comedy specifically, but more generally about "the Restoration period", then 1660—1685, the reign of Charles II, is probably the encyclopedic winner. The dab page Restoration thinks it is. Bishonen | talk 16:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi Geogre, I have made a smallish article on the Eyrbyggja saga. It is a beginning. If you're interested in hauntings in norse sagas, you could read this article: Hervor. Cheers,--Wiglaf 20:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Before the voting on European English ended a replacement was written, which is being subjected to a new round of voting. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/European English. 66.167.137.130 09:32, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I've cleaned up the article, and think it should be kept (at least until I can do some more research on it). It was original research (and probably vanity) as originally written, but it's a real term that has been used by some philosophers/theologians. -- BD2412 talk 13:45, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)
Just letting you know about Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/HYP (universities) 2. If you have an opinion, please vote. I am notifying people who have been active on either side of the debate. —Lowellian (talk) 23:49, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
Geogre, if you're around, you might like to form an opinion about Pjacobi's request for adminship. His attitude is pretty unusual—IMO, unusually good—but it hasn't attracted a lot of attention. Bishonen | talk 14:40, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Please re-visit the discussion. Uncle G 04:44, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)
Hi Geogre, I haven't spoken to you for a while. Hope all is well. Thanks for editing the user page I made, but unfortunately Bishonen has expressed a desire not to be added to the list. If she has changed her mind then fine, but I've had to remove her for now. Don't forget you can add yourself if there is anything you have done which is fab. I'm sure there must be. You can suggest a new category if necessary! I'm sure I haven't covered enough areas. Best wishes --Silversmith Hewwo 11:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I answered your question about pre-viz. RickK 23:26, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
Given what you said at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pyotr, you might want to visit Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Alessandra and Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation#Name_disambiguation_policy. Uncle G 02:01, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:18, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
Hey Geogre, I need some advice here, though I'm not really sure why I'm going to you. Anyway have you noticed the Category:2005 English cricket season matches articles that have appeared? If wikipedia is going to summarize every sporting event ever played I think it needs some discussion first, to say the least. As far as I can tell there really hasn't been any. What do you think should be done? -R. fiend 18:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Your words in the edit description: "Added his college, because he was my student." Huh? I corrected your mistakes. You said he went to UGA (wrong) and was your student. Well, I don't know if he was your student. According to your profile, you lived in Athens, GA., but he went to Lowndes County High School in Hahira, GA and you never said you lived in Tallahassee, FL where Drew went to college at Florida State, so where were you his teacher? Furthermore, Drew never won a college world series with Florida State. I'd expect more from "an administrator".
So here I am, composing a masterpiece of vandalism in sonnet form, when it occurs to me that I don't know the correct pronounciation of "Geogre". Is it ( jor - jre ), ( jor - gre ), ( gai - gre ), or what? ;-) func(talk) 20:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yep. Bishonen's right. The name came from my being considered something of a 500 ton weight dropping on opponents during argument in my youth (I've mellowed), and it was ge-ogre. Geogre 03:40, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
So, I added a summary of your Restoration literature to English literature, if you'd care to check it out. And I think you may not have gone over my invisible comments in Restoration literature. If you look at a version before I whirled the genres round and round the daisies, you'll find 'em easy. Bishonen | talk 23:17, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
BTW, I think I've seen and addressed the invisible ink comments, if I understood properly. Geogre 12:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It is a proper one, kiddo. You did a great job with it. I'm not sure what anyone would expect of an English literature article except one about 500kb long. Like I said, though, you just wait until I summon the energy and demons and put them in harness to start on Augustan literature. There are butts to be kicked, and I'm lacing up my boots. Geogre 14:25, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I looked at your recent work, and I realized late that you might want the Augustan literature. If you do, I'll gladly step back from such a major plunge. It's a big, big, big task. Is there an element of it you'd consider doing? The drama isn't all that illustrious, and the poetry is enormous, and anyone doing "the novel" needs an article by itself at the least. Geogre 17:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ahhh, come on! It'll be fun. Besides, just imagine what I'd say about Augustan theater. (Hint: I hates it.) Think what I'd say about all the dissenter prose authors. (Hint: I hates 'em too.) Think of all the unfair slagging off on Richardson I'll do. I can't be trusted with the responsibility, I tell you. Geogre 17:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
User:Villy on Vheels. But this one seems to be an amateur, moving things by copy/paste. Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi Geogre, I just noticed that you blocked the above user right before I blocked him indefinitely as a troll account/impersonation attempt. After I saw your temporary block, I thought that my indefinite block may indeed have been to much in that case. I'd be willing to trust your judgment, unblock him and apply a temporary block, but I'm not really sure we need to assume good faith with a username like that... Ferkelparade π 13:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi Geogre,
Meelar has brought to my attention that you might like a proposal of mine at User talk:MarSch/deleteproposal. Please take a look. Thanks --MarSch 15:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, but I was hoping you could explain this [1], if speedy keep is an invalid vote? I'm not arguing or anything, but doesn't this show that speedy keep is a valid vote, since the article was speedily kept? Scimitar 19:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your swift reply, and I understand your argument. I concur with what you're saying, mostly because after thinking about it I think that the benefits of keeping the article quickly are outweighed by the possible connotations of the vote. I won't be using this in future, except on excessively moronic nominations (say, United States of America). As for Kappa, I think what he's doing is simply arguing forcefully from his ultra-inclusionist perspective, and not so much an attack on the nominator. I'm pretty sure I'm not an inclusionist, and I disagree with him occasionally, but AFAIK he's always been civil. One of the unfortunate results of the schools debate was a heightening of rhetoric, which led to an absurdly low bar for school notability, since no consensus could be reached. Anyway, thanks for your perspective, and best wishes. Scimitar 19:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I really am glad you decided to keep your User page. RickK 05:29, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
You gonna upload Image:Southampton.gif, already? Being as I am both a beautiful boy and a straight female, I take several kinds of interest. Is he as beautiful as the flea? Note, btw, that User:Gdr is writing diligently to you about the pictures on my page. Bishonen | talk 17:50, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well, true, but he was five years younger when Shakespeare wrote those pretty poems to him, I think. "Nature fell adoting" indeed. Certainly an androgyne. The painting has it all, though: armor in the back and amour in the front. Geogre 21:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Very much, and the messages! But I will not be tempted into staying up for another minute, I will keep them as a reason for getting briskly out of bed in the morning instead. This is just to share a trick: you can actually link to an image, without displaying the image itself on the page. Give the complete code as if to display it, but add a colon at the head. (Same as with categories.) For an example, lookee the editing code for my link to the Southampton.gif above. Chubby Ned, btw, is a lot bishier than Southampton! And so good night! Bishonen | talk 02:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi again! I noticed that you voted delete on Jason Court here: [2] . I rewrote the article, and am wondering if you want to reconsider your vote? Best wishes, regardless. Scimitar 16:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle... and so on! Bishonen | talk 13:18, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hey Geogre, I saw you mention this in a VfD vote, and I think I've seen it elsewhere too. What exactly is it? -R. fiend 00:10, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hey, some cool news for a change: did you see that Pete is back? :-) He's got Elias Ashmole up for peer review [NUDGE]. You know, the Ashmolean? Bishonen | talk 08:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've spammed your mailbox with some interesting comparative material. Thanks for your work on Restoration literature. Cheers, — mark ✎ 14:07, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Geogre, did I hear you say you wanted this one in the Ref section? Gutenberg has a nice text of it, together with the "Discourse on Epic Poetry" (1697). You want me to put it in?
Bishonen | talk 15:56, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You don't need to thank me for recognizing how good the Restoration literature article is (but thanks back anyway). I had been working on getting Emily Dickinson up to FAC snuff, but fell asleep on it for a few weeks somehow; perhaps after I get back in gear on that I will add a bit to fill out the nineteenth and twentieth centuries of the English literature article/series. (I am not sure how we'll want to handle the non-UK-and-Ireland literatures there, but it seems like the main article ought to include everything, at least in survey, and there's a big American literature-shaped hole in it at the moment.) And yes, I know what you mean; it's sometimes easier to write about things you don't know quite so well as your own specialty. Thanks for the invitation to contribute -- though I can't match what you put in (in time or in quality), I will pitch in as I can. -- Rbellin|Talk 21:00, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi Geogre: I saw your offer on Fil's talk page and implemented it myself since I already have his email address. It will make a nice surprise for him when he arrives at work.—Theo (Talk) 06:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. If you want to see why I ought not be trusted with survey articles on things I know something about, though, see Augustan literature. That sombitch is something like 50K already, and I haven't even gotten to the poetry or drama. This is also sort of why I wasn't much help on Modern Poetry: I can't go small on things like that, no matter how hard I try. All the developments are important. Geogre 17:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
No, I have gone to bed, but I see fresh footprints of yours, so I have to say this: there's a scrumptious donut waiting for you on my Talk, just above reply to anon. :-) Bishonen | talk 01:49, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In this discussion you said
I've come up with a criterion that does exactly that and (according to early results — The study that I am running is not yet complete. I want to run it for a few more days yet.) appears to have some success. User:Uncle G/Proposal to expand WP:CSD/Unsourced biographies. The study is on the talk page. Uncle G 18:56, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
For extraordinary achievements in the field of 18th-century literature and culture, User:Bishonen has awarded you The 2005 Nobel Prize For 18th-Century Literature on behalf of the Wikipedia Nobel Committee. Please find it on your userpage! Bishonen | talk 00:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Geogre, I hope this isn't inappropriate--but if you need a break from WP, you might want to take a look at the "Guessing Winstanley's Frontispiece" game over here. I thought you might get a kick out of it. I haven't started rolling out the big guns yet! I'm going to ask Bishonen too. PRiis 04:16, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Are you guys playing the PENIS game or what? — mark ✎
You raised some good issues about African-American literature and I've tried to address them. Do my changes work for you? Also, what do you think about my suggestion of putting some of the extra info about Toomer in the Harlem Renaissance article? My complete comments are at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/African-American literature. I really want to get this article to featured article status, so any more help you can give is appreciated.--Alabamaboy 30 June 2005 11:02 (UTC)
For any travellers passing by, Augustan literature is now finished. It is 90 kb, so I didn't get to the predicted 100 kb, but 90 kb is plenty long. Plans for it? Well, I'm going to let my brain sleep for a while. When it wakes up, I'll take the current sections and make them dedicated articles (e.g. Augustan prose and Augustan poetry and Augustan Drama). After that, I'll chop down the sections viciously, with hands atremble and eyes leaking tears, to "essentials" and a very nasty uber-over-view. Then maybe FAC, maybe not. Geogre 1 July 2005 16:08 (UTC)
Since you had such excellent comments on African-American literature, I wanted to ask you about article size. After some of my recent edits to the article, a warning popped up saying the article was now possibly too long. The standard referred to was 32kb. While African-American literature is just below this, I don't understand why Wikipedia has this warning when so many articles go way beyond the lenght restriction (including most of the recent Featured Articles). Can you provide any insight? Also, is it worth worrying about this size limit?--Alabamaboy 1 July 2005 16:50 (UTC)
I'm sorry if my changes upset you, but what threats are you talking about? I never threatened you at any point. If you're thinking of "Everyone stay at least 10 feet away", that is a line in the poem "No Comment", not a message directed at anyone. BTW, the aforesaid postings were not anonymous; I signed them with my username. But I apologize for the inconvenience. Thanks for giving me my username (well, sort of). Have you figured out what the numbers mean? That one is a bad number is a matter of personal opinion that many people would disagree with me on, but I know that you would agree. User:Yeltensic42.618 3 July 2005 1:09 (All times and music are Eastern)