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This page is about using diacritics in article titles on WIkipedia.
I have created this page just after article Novak Đoković was moved to Novak Djokovic. In my point of view, there were two opinions on this move:
Reasons to change title were:
Arguments against this move consisted mostly on arguments that are not part of official Wikipedia policies, but are widely accepted.
This is list of guidelines and interesting talk pages.
Guidelines
Talk pages
This is list of active RMs (Requests for Moving an article) related to this issue, that I know on April 11th, 2008.
This is the list of articles that use English names as titles. Original name of the person have diacritics, but article title does not. I think this option is widely abandoned on Wikipedia.
Exception to my point of view might be letter ß that most often gets substituted with ss, but I do not think that discussion belong here.
This is the list of articles that use diacritics in article title. I think this option is widely accepted on Wikipedia. From my experience this is going to be a very long list. So, I would add some subcategories.
Comment: ET stands for non diacritics (or English) title.
This is a list of pages that are using diacritics in titles and have been moved around, but even in older version title had diacritics.
These articles are important for discussion. Someone requested move for them, but those moves were not accepted. You can check their discussion pages.
no | article | description | diacritics | non-diacritics |
---|---|---|---|---|
1. | François Mitterrand | president of France (1916-1996) | 95k (29%) | 232k (71%) |
2. | Éamon de Valera | president of Ireland (1882-1975) | 20k (17%) | 97k (83%) |
3. | Kimi Räikkönen | Finnish driver (1979- ) | 228k (9%) | 2.4m (91%) |
4. | Lech Wałęsa | president of Poland (1943- ) | 35k (4%) | 826k (96%) |
5. | Níðhöggr | Icelandic dragon | 1.7k (3%) | 59.1k (97%) |
6. | Franjo Tuđman | President of Croatia | 15k (21%) | 96k (79%) |
Numbers at the end represent Google search results (see explanation below). For those pages "most common name" (according to Wikipedia) is used in only 3-29% of web pages.
This list would be separated by some categories (nationalities, professions). I would start with very famous Serbs.
Top 20 or other famous tennis players
Names using Đ or đ
Vietnamese
Kosovo Albanians leaders
Mentioned on Walesa's page
Mentioned by User:Kubura on Talk:Franjo Tuđman
Very nice list (important persons)
To test which name is more common I performed this test using Google search engine. This test is absolutely not enough to give you answer which name is more common in English, but it can give pretty good suggestion. Test results also may not be the same all the time.
If you have Sömé Nãme, I compared it to Some Name. In Advanced Google Search page, in first field I have put "Sömé Nãme" (with quotation marks) and in unwanted words I have put "Some Name" (again with quotation marks). In Language field I have selected English. For the second test, I just change positions of "Sömé Nãme" and "Some Name". i.e. "Sömé Nãme" becomes unwanted. After searching, I take the Google approximation on number of pages that have one, but not the other name.
This test I used for articles that were requested to move, but those moves were not accepted. See that list.