The Joshua Project

After a back & forth yesterday in which you one time restored data from the Joshua Project after having been informed that it was by standing consensus not a reliable source (WP:RS/P), you again today added data to another page from the Joshua Project. This is not a source we can draw on for Wikipedia. Are you doing this deliberately? Pathawi (talk) 17:20, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not doing this 'deliberately' but there is no source out there that mentions the Hadendowa population in Sudan so i added the Joshua Project. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Joshua Project just isn't a reliable source. Wikipedia sources have to be reliable. So it's not like if there's Joshua Project & something else, choose something else. It's: Never use Joshua Project. Pathawi (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I literally added Ethnologue and you removed it what else do you wnat me to add? Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 17:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I undid an edit in which you made multiple changes, including the addition of an unreliable source—an unreliable source that I had twice notified you of, including within the previous 24 hours. I don't particularly want you to add anything: That's not what's at issue. I want you to not use unreliable missionary sources. Pathawi (talk) 17:45, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok so i have added a reliable source with the population estimates. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 18:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September 2023

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I dont know how to do it but can you request for a dispute resolution thank You. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 18:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DRN says The dispute must have been recently discussed extensively on a talk page (not just through edit summaries) to be eligible for help at DRN. so you should at least do that first. You haven't posted to Talk:Hausa people at all. Belbury (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

cleaning your talk

I am not sure why you do that, but it is more suspicious. I went back to your page to state that this situation is resolved but when you remove it, it just indicate that you are hiding things. You have removed couple of Vandalism after final (level 4 or 4im) warning given from couple of experienced editors, although you wiped the page clean every now and then, it is still there. Your account refuses to engage and has been involved in many edit wars about populations, and has been warned couple of times, see (in addition to what in your talk) Hausa, Sudan, Sudan Arab, Nilotic Peoples., population again, Sudan again, etc

Although I attest that this was not my experience with you on this current event, I hope you would not remove warnings or even people who think you "need to read a book" or anything like that. Having these things is good, as it shows your growth, removing it on the other hand portray the opposite of that. we all started somewhere. FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I remove talks to clean my wikipedia page and also to remove warnings and conversations that I find not to be appropriate for the meantime right now. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@FuzzyMagma You are spot on. This editor ~1618 is into so much wars and does not listen. Accuses other editors, currently trying to revert all what the editors have been building for months on Kumam, Lango as Ateker groups. These are new facts/research areas that caused editors to creat the articles on Ateker peoples in the first place. And keeps quoting ethnologue. What is the point of editing if we cannot update information, new research findings on here? ~ Ngunalik (talk) 22:25, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Manyika Dialect

Hi, greetings, can I know your basis of saying Manyika people are 912,000, I hope it’s not Joshua Project( because it’s unreliable). Manyika people are VaHera, VaBocha(Southern Manyika), Northen Manyika and VaUngwe. If u look at 6 root districts where Manyika originates, they have a combined population of 1.8 million people and there are 1 million of them in Harare, Mash west and Midlands who went there for greener pastures. How about those in Mozambique, South Africa and UK Mindthem (talk) 10:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did not take it from Joshua Project I took it from Ethnologue itself and added the actual estimate together and not just writing another number that was not presented at Ethnologue. The figure for both dialects doesn't even exceed a million so how could it be 1.8 million?Ethnologue only lists two dialects Manyika and Tewe there's no other dialect listed so by adding up the two dialects number of spwakers you get close to 916,000 speakers not 3.9 million. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 12:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ethnologue is just looking at Mutasa District that is only Northen Manyika. What about the rest in Makoni, Nyanga, Mutare, Buhera and Chipenge districts. I personally live in Zimbabwe, I know Zimbabwean demographics much better websites that claim to know about Zimbabwe while they know nothing. If you look at enthnogue map, you see they are pointing at Mutasa District. I think it’s best to know about Manyika people first before editing articles related to them. Other researchs says Karanga are 22%, Zezuru 18% and 12% Korekore which leaves a vacant 48% of Shonas to Ndau and Manyika. Thank you, I hope you understand. Mindthem (talk) 16:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ethnologue only lists two dialects so what the source says will be entered unless the dialects are listed on Ethnologue, they are not as far as im concerned so the correct estimate of speakers will be used. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 18:10, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
it’s jus pointing in one District, so that harmful misinformation. Mindthem (talk) 18:37, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
'Harmful misinformation' according to you but not the reliable source that's being used. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 18:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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it's fixed now Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 15:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Amhara people 2A02:6680:1108:8777:218F:66D5:E5E6:10D0 (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Amhara people

Hi, can you restore the image of “Yekunu Amalak the founder of the Ethiopian empire” on the page of the Amhara people? Someone removed it. I don’t understand why? 2A02:6680:1108:8777:218F:66D5:E5E6:10D0 (talk) 18:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there are almost 200k Ethiopians living in Israel. It is not clear how many of them are Amhara or identify as such since there is not official stat of that. but there is Amhara population there. Israel should be restored to the page as “unknown”. I don’t know why it got removed. 77.137.65.241 (talk) 11:23, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It has been restored i have left a warning on their talk page if they continue to make disruptive edits i will report their account to the administrators for blocking Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]