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Are you sure the federal standard is to use larger numbers like that? The shield templates at WP:USRD/S/T use small numbers and that's what I use to make my shields. Can you give me the link to the MUTCD page on state-name Interstate shields?-Jeff (talk) 02:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
If Kansas doesn't have a state document (or doesn't give access to it), then I need to use the Federal standard. If the new standard is to use larger numbers, then I need to see the specification that says so, so I know the right size to make them.-Jeff (talk) 03:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
If Scott is saying one thing and Ltljltlj is saying something else, then that makes it a dispute. In that case, I don't want to change something related to it until there's an agreement on what type of shields are correct. However, I did create some templates and uploaded them to Commons:Category:Highway shield templates, so other editors can create state-name shields with larger numbers like Ltljltlj makes.-Jeff (talk) 04:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Freewayguy-
I think you're in the right and supported by the sources, but be careful not to violate the 3 revert rule (in fact or spirit) at red giant. Nothing on Wikipedia is urgent enough to get into an edit war. -Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 05:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for noticing, thats what I'm been saying. This does not matter what the book or science textbook says, this matters what the source we have on line. nothing is certain about Venus, Earth, or Mars fate. And if Earth survive over sun's white dwarf, then Venus will probably survive. This all matter over sun's exansion-this range any place between 1 and 1.75 AU. If they get as far as close enough to Mars orbit, then Mars have chance to be swallow up too. That user have to keep in mind, onlyonline source counts, not science textbooks, or book magazine.--Freewayguy Call? Fish 18:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
With regard to the Interstate shield, the 2003 MUTCD says that the word "Interstate" which is in the red part of the shield is to be in Series E text on three-digit shields. This is shown on the M1-1 sign diagram in the Standard Highway Signs book. Each of the numbers in Column "L" is followed by a letter; this is the series (width) that the text is to be written in. For two digit signs, "Interstate" should be in Series C, while on three digit signs the text should be in Series E. Ltljltlj's shields have been using Series C for both 2 and 3 digit signs.
Note this is only the word "Interstate" in the red part of the shield. Ltljltlj's shields have the correct series for the numbers. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 22:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Even though the MUTCD says that they use Series E for "Interstate" on 3-digit shields, I go by what I see by photos and specs. I am currently making shields with all different fonts (ex: an I-385 shield with Series B numbers, one with Series C, D, and even E. The MUTCD is actually the official specs, but the only time I actually see E for "Interstate" is on 3-digit Ohio shields. --Ltljltlj (talk) 19:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for answering my questions Ltljltlj. Scott becamse an admin and he's a little busy.--Freewayguy Call? Fish 17:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
It seems as if you two have a bit of a spat between each other frequently. The problem with the IP is that he frequently changes IP addresses (which is an automatic thing, he has no control over it), so even if we block him, the IP will change and the block won't be in effect anymore. And any messages I send him won't be seen by him because of this also. Furthermore, I'm not very active at Commons, all I do there is upload images. I'm not the best user to deal with this (I'm not a very good mediator, unfortunately), so try getting a more experienced user's help. Regards, CL — 05:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I used the ((rename)) template at the commons to request that the images be moved to their new names. It might take a while for them to be moved, but they will be moved sooner or later.-Jeff (talk) 19:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I know the shields has been made a long time ago. I didn't make it nor ask it. After the file been name the old one have to be delete. ((duplicate)).--Freewayguy Call? Fish 19:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi-
Thanks for adding the citation for the 2.57 solar mass figure as the maximum mass star that will undergo a helium flash at red giant (diff). However, the source was a) a dead link (which I fixed) and b) made no mention of any mass in that context, and certainly didn't have the number 2.57. Do you know of a source which quotes that number? If so, it would be great. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 15:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Then how you get 2.57 solar masses. My old hobby was astronomy, however I'm not so good with physics or chemistry. The only thing I know is what will happen to those planets when sun gets old. All stars have lives, blue giant puff up to supergiant and scarlet dwarf just fade into white dwarf.--Freewayguy Call? Fish 16:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how you people get 2.57 solar mass, I only know the diameter, the sun being one in like 6 or 7 billion years will be like 100 to 250 times, ranges close to Earth orbit and possibly Mars orbit. Anyways I'm somewhat good with stars, or its life cycle, however I know stuff about planets in our solar system better.--Freewayguy Call? Fish 16:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
That Texas interstate shield is based on the USDOT MUTCD, not any TxDOT MUTCD. I believe TxDOT may have their state documents online somewhere, though.
While I'm commenting here, could I ask why you're doing edits like this? I know Infobox Interstate/Intrastate is deprecated, but that doesn't mean you have to make special edits just to change them over. (Same goes for ((jct)): there's really nothing wrong with having junctions written out by hand.) I mean, sure you can convert them while you're doing something else to the article, but taking time to specifically do that isn't really helpful, since they display the same to the reader anyway. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
And Scott; i have to say you might been wrong by MUTCD uses C series in blue field of itnerstates. i-635 TX.svg might be clsoer to today or emtric ones. The C Series in blue field might be middle version from what I've check from MUTCD.--Freewayguy Call? Fish 20:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I'm not sure what you wanted by tagging this article for speedy deletion. Did you want Interstate 495 (New York) to be moved to Interstate 495 and State Route 495 (New York)? Could you clarify and explain your reasoning? Thanks. Okiefromokla questions? 16:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry Freewayguy, I didn't notice your message at first; thanks for the reminder. Anyway, I'll move those shields, but not now. At the moment, I'm on a very slow computer so I can't do much except edit pages. Once I do get on a computer of better speed, I'll go ahead and move them. However, if you want your request to be expedited in a more timely manner, try asking someone else. If you can't get anyone else to do so, I'll move them. CL — 21:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)