Blocked -July 2022-[edit]

Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.

Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you should review the guide to appealing blocks, and then appeal your block by adding the following text below this notice: ((unblock|Your reason here ~~~~)). Note that anything you post in your unblock request will be public, so you may alternatively use the Unblock Ticket Request System to submit an appeal if it contains information that must be private.

Administrators: Checkusers have access to confidential system logs not accessible by the public or by administrators due to the Wikimedia Foundation's privacy policy. You must not loosen or remove this block, or issue an IP block exemption, without consulting with a checkuser or the Arbitration Committee. Administrators who undo checkuser blocks without permission from a checkuser or the Arbitration Committee may be summarily desysopped.
-- ferret (talk) 18:53, 14 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

First appeal for unblock -16 July 2022-[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

hi there, so well, i just didn't knew that you are supposed to like not come back to the articles you edited before when clean starting, i apologize for any problems, needless to say, i haven't made any disruptive edits and i will not. can i be unblocked now? HimuTheEditor (talk) 09:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

Checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 13:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Sergecross73: and @Ferret:, i'm pinging you just so you receive the notification of my message above. thank you!

Appeal for unblock -19 July 2022-[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

True, i had multiple accounts, but i never used my new account for any sort of disruptive editing, and if that's true, i do not deserve to be banned, 'cause if you read the full line at Wikipedia sockpuppetry, the user is to be banned, if he uses the new account to make same disruptive edits which he did before, which i clearly did not. If you decline my request of unblock, i request you humbly to point out any disruptive edits made from my new account User:Paperpseudonym. HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

"True, i had multiple accounts". We are done here. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Oi, what's up with verified of abusing multiple accounts? First, i didn't knew when clean starting you had to stay anonymous, second, with my new account, i never made any disruptive edits, if you wish check the contributions, what's going on? could you just clear it up? HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And why it's matter anyway, if i have 1-2-3 or 100 accounts, as long as i abide by the rules and stay respectful and my edits aren't disruptive, does it even matter? HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:43, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, it matters, because we have a policy that clearly says not to do it. Evading scrutiny (You are warned/reverted for edits, then instead of fixing your editing, make a new account and continue doing the same things) is sockpuppetry. Please read WP:GAB once more. You need to explain that you understand why you got blocked and why it won't be an issue going forward. Currently you're arguing you did nothing wrong, so why should any administrator reviewing the unblock believe you will properly follow policy? -- ferret (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ferret: Yes, that's exactly it, that's what i'm asking you. What edits you're talking about? which edits did i revert from my new account? that is exactly what i have been trying to ask but you guys just wouldn't tell me. HimuTheEditor (talk) 17:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'll be patiently waiting for your reply, do your research, check your facts again but you gotta admit you're wrong. I didn't made any disruptive edits from my new account. All i did was apply each and every rule dot to dot of Template:Track listing on the pages, HimuTheEditor (talk) 17:24, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Himu, you are in no position to be trying to call the shots here. You are blocked and will remain blocked until you persuade someone to unblock you. You violated policy and if you'd read the guide for unblock requests, you'd see you're not doing a good job at writing a good unblock request either. You've got a pretty slim chance at a valid unblock request, but you've pretty much got a 0% chance if you keep this approach up. Sergecross73 msg me 17:43, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Serge, i politely ask you, that i will agree to whatevs you say when you call me out on the disruptive edits i made, which according to you i made.

I'm supposed to know why i was blocked, your statements are half-baked. First answer me: were there any disruptive edits i made from my new account? 'Yes or No?' I insist the answer is No, and if it is, then i have no reason to be blocked, even if i have multiple accounts. But if the answer is Yes, i will respectfully take it and leave, if your answer's yes, please point out the edits. that is all i ask for. thank you! HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:07, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, it was disruptive to enter the same sort of arguments and disputes in the music world with Ss112 under the guise of being a different editor. The whole reason this happened was because he recognized that you were being you under a different name. If you weren't violating this, you wouldn't have been caught. The fact you were caught is proof you were not following CLEANSTART. This never would have happened had you decided to properly CEANSTART and go make edits related to animals or politics or something. But no, you had to go right back to unnecessarily tinkering with music tracklists and the like. Sergecross73 msg me 18:24, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
tinkering with music tracklists, oh please, go look at the changes i made and how much i improved them. you're telling me i am blocked just because Ss112 recognized me, of course, anyone would, i had no intentions of hiding 'cause i didn't knew of cleanstart to begin with, and again, i'm banned just cos he recognized me not because of my edits? if you look i never made such edits from this accounts, and all edits of Paperpseudonym match dot to dot with Template:Track listing. Either you guys are in wrong, or template is, so which one is it? HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I didn't got into argument with Ss112, all i did was propose a change, commas to ((|hlist)), which is what template uses, and just so you know, i messed up this whole comma thingy from Himu account, so from Paper i only fixed it, it still remains that it was correct according to the Template, like he spams see Template:Track listing says this and that, can't i do the same? HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Asking to be unblocked[edit]

@Ferret:, @Sergecross73: So, what's done is done. I can't undo it, i swear i didn't knew i was supposed to stay anonymous when clean starting, if you may allow me, may i create a new account and get back to editing? Needless to say, i'll stay away from the articles i have edited from HimuTheEditor, Paperpseudonym and any track listing edits for that matter. I'll make my edits as accurate and faithful as possible whilst also staying anonymous and not making it clear that it's me this time. Can i do that? HimuTheEditor (talk) 12:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hold on, i have also seen people mentioning on their talk pages of their previous accounts, so can i like write something like, HimuTheEditor and Paperpseudonym were my previous accounts i used which i no longer use, i edit from my this account now? HimuTheEditor (talk) 12:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's my final decision, i await your approval now, i just ask you to remove these sanctions from my 3 accounts HimuTheEditor, Orangefeliscatus, and Paperpseudonym. i'll just mention there these 3 accounts were owned by me, i no longer use them. I can then just clean start, i promise to stay anonymous, not reveal my identity, refrain from any arguments whatsoever, i'll not make any edits to Template:Track listing or similar which might make it obvious it's me next time, and also stay away from basic soundtrack articles for that matter? Is that allowed? you wouldn't realize it but i'd be so happy if you could allow it, you can always keep a check on me by Checkuser thingy you do. HimuTheEditor (talk) 12:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Ferret / User:Sergecross73. Please reply. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:01, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Ferret / User:Sergecross73, are you willingly not responding to me? if you haven't seen the texts above, please respond. i'm still waiting, HimuTheEditor (talk) 12:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello. I am not the blocking admin, nor am I an admin patrolling unblock requests, so you can stop asking me. If an admin decides to give you another chance, I won't stop or argue with them. But I'm not going to be the one to unblock you. Sergecross73 msg me 12:07, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You cannot make any new accounts while blocked. Doing so is sockpuppetry and will result in further blocks. You are already aware of WP:GAB. Make an appeal and convince the unblocking admins that the block is not required to prevent further disruption and sockpuppetry. -- ferret (talk) 12:14, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Ferret Yes, i very well know that. That's precisely why i asked you here. Now i would like to say something. I didn't knew the rules of the clean start and i admit that the one who was in wrong here's me, i also understand clearly why was i blocked now. Since, you're the blocking admin, could you please unblock me now? HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
At the very least, you need to agree to a one account restriction to be unblocked. I personally am not willing to lift your block at this time. There's no evidence that your editing will change, as Ss112 is pointing out the same issues for all three of your accounts despite your numerous warnings and people's attempts to advise you. Another patrolling admin is free to unblock you if they see fit. -- ferret (talk) 15:08, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Ferret First and foremost, i would like you to please stop banning me from editing my talk page, i don't know everytime i post here, then when you reply, i'm blocked for a while, please. Be assured, i'll not try to make any edits to the Wikipedia by any means till you approve me. About your last reply, i didn't quite understood it, could you please rephrase it? and yes from your point of view, it must be hard to believe in me now. But i take the responsiblity for any mess i made here because of my incorrect knowledge about the policies. I promise, i just need this one last chance of clean starting, i'll make good use of it. Of course, i won't be editing any articles/topics i edited from these accounts. I might return back to these articles after a few years, maybe? when i have earned a good reputation from my new account and even then, the edits i'll make will different and not over any old disputed matters. i promise. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have never revoked your talk page access on this account. You can see the block log here, and verify that I have not modified the block since placing it on July 14. I am not sure how to rephrase my last reply to be any clearer than it already is. -- ferret (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ferret: oh, actually i didn't understood what you meant by "agree to one account restriction to be unblocked", it's just that english's not my mother tongue and it'd be helpful if you could explain to me again. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It means you promise NOT to ever make any more accounts and only use this one. Any evidence you've made another account would be grounds to reinstate your block, and it'd be unlikely you'd succeed at another appeal. -- ferret (talk) 16:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ferret: I understand, but i would like not to continue from here. You see, i spent most of the time here just editing templates and not anything more than that, and not just that, i'd been involved in many disputes due to the template mess i made, i cannot continue down from here. i request you humbly to please allow me to create a new account, i'll strictly follow Clean start and abide by it forever. I WILL NOT participate in any disputes which i did from my this account, neither edit or propose any half-baked changes, i'll follow all guidelines, i promise. As an assurity, if i'm ever to be found breaking it again, you can permanently block me, and i'll not question or appeal for any unblocks. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Himu, 4 separate admin have now declined to unblock you on your own terms. You have given a condition. You should take it. No offense, but there's no particular reason to believe that you can follow CLEANSTART. You can say anything you want, but no past actions are going to give any admin confidence that creating a new account is a good idea for you. Take what you can get. Keep in mind there are ways of changing your username too. Sergecross73 msg me 19:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I guess, it just can't be helped eh? I'll just wait here patiently till some admin unblocks or when any of you can trust me.

Comment on RickinBaltimore declining appeal for unblock[edit]

"True I had multiple accounts" --"we're done here"? with all due respect you didn't even read the rest, my mistake was i didn't understand clean start properly. however, it still remains the edits i made from Paper were not destructive, and about Ss112, he just poined my 1 edit (it was a proposal which i even discussed wth you, Serge), assusimg Good Faith is the key here, if you were to revert my edit, i wouldn't resist and take it, but you guys wouldn't say if it's good or not to make it, nobody responds on articles talk page for the discussion, what was i to do? it wasn't vandalism i did. and say if i were to make 100 edits, 90 proper and a few doubtful like others don't agree, you're to take only 10 into consideration? why's that? i just wouldn't like to talk anymore now. thank you for your time HimuTheEditor (talk) 19:20, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also, you guys keep saying considering your past actions and stuff, if you look closely, the things i did wrong from HimuTheEditor's accounts, i never ever did anything wrong from Orangefeliscatus and Paperpseudonym. from Orangefeliscatus account i didn't do even a single thing wrong, how about that? the only thing where i am at fault is i just didn't understood clean start properly, and you just fail to see that, i do not understand why? and i didn't made Orangefeliscatus and Paperpseudonym to avoid scrutiny, i created Orangefeliscatus because at that time i thought we could just have one more account, and also because i have ocd.

Now you just block me from editing my own talkpage idk how it works but it keeps happening, then there's the edits, that's what matters the most here, which you wouldn't discuss properly. ughh! HimuTheEditor (talk) 19:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Himu, the block log objectively shows that no one has ever removed your talk page access from this account, so I don't know what else to tell you on that one. Accusing anyone of doing that to you is objectively wrong. It is impossible to restrict someone's talk page access without it showing up in this log. I don't know what you're going through there, but no admin or editor is doing it to you.
And again, when I refer to your past actions, I mean your past actions of inappropriately using multiple accounts. I'm saying that it doesn't make any sense for an admin to approve of you making another account right off the bat when you abusing multiple accounts was the source of this whole problem.
Anyways, I'm done, it's just talking circles with you. May you find another hobby that you can contribute to more constructively to than Wikipedia. You'll never get your account unblocked acting like this, and if you block evade, you'll just get blocked again. Time to move on. Sergecross73 msg me 19:50, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sergecross73: i can't just give up on Wikipedia, it's not much of a hobby either, i just wanna do it for some reason. I know words don't mean much, actions speak louder, could you tell me what to do now? to make you all trust that i would make good use of one last chance for a clean start? HimuTheEditor (talk) 19:56, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sergecross73:, Serge, please. this one chance is all i ask for from you, i promise i'll live upto it. i have never asked for a last chance before, have i? i know these words may just look like a futile attempt. for all the edits i made, for all the time i spent here learning stuff, i just ask for this one chance, i won't... ever... ever give you a chance to doubt me, i mean it. please? HimuTheEditor (talk) 07:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Sergecross73, and User:Ferret. I apologize for pinging you or mentioning you so many times, i know it may be irksome for you when i do that. could you please read my above statements and reconsider? all i need is a one chance and i'll really live up to it, i promise. is there anything that i can say that can make you trust me? again, this is the only chance i ask of you, just this one last clean start, please. if i'm ever to fiddle with any old disputes or edits ever again, you're free to block me without even needing to explain it to me. HimuTheEditor (talk) 07:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -20 July 2022-[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

i did not know of the rules of clean start and i ended up fiddling with the same disputes i did from my previous accounts, i understand the reason of why i was blocked, i promise not to repeat it again, never again. i now understand that i was in the wrong here. i also understand that the reason you blocked me was in good faith to stop me from violating the rules and disruptive editing. i just ask for this one last chance and consideration, if there's anything that i can agree to to be unblocked like a brief and clear statement of what i won't repeat, i'd be happy to make it. Also, i understand continued posting for unblock requests is also wrong, so i won't be posting after this request if this request is to be rejected too.

Decline reason:

It is pretty clear that you still don't understand and as Sergecross73 points out, it's talking in circles with you. If you really want to be unblocked, stay away from the English Wikipedia and come back after a reasonable amount of time and only when you understand our policies properly. —SpacemanSpiff 07:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

HimuTheEditor (talk) 08:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sergecross73:, and @Ferret:. please reply, i'm sorry if my previous statements were not understandable, as you said it'd be just talking circles with me, but please hear me out, i admit i was wrong and i'm ready to fix it and improve. i ask for a chance, please. HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:20, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I won't be reviewing this unblock appeal. You'll have to wait for another patroller. -- ferret (talk) 18:28, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
why's that?HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For any new Admin/Patroller regarding my unblock request[edit]

To make things easier, i've mentioned everything of the talk pages summary here, and of the reason why i have been blocked.

* i promise NOT to: 1). Fiddle with any old disputes/edits i was with my previous accounts. 2). I'll discontinue use of any accounts but the one i'll create, that is, if i'm allowed to. 3). make any edits without thinking twice, and be sure to be familiar with all the rules till date.

i hope you can unblock me this last time, i look forward to edit Wikipedia again, i'll abide by the words i stated on this talkpage. should i back off and mess up again? you may block me without any explanation and i shall not appeal for any unblocks. thank you! HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:44, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Sergecross73/@Sergecross73:, and User:Ferret/@Ferret:, i'm writing to you again, as i haven't received any reply from any other patroller. Please give me this chance, the block is unnecessary now, i have realized why i was blocked. please give me rope one time, i'll live upto it, just this once chance is all i ask for. if unblocing me and letting me clean start is not possible, could you tell what i could do to clean start again? HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm concerned whether or not you actually read Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. To quote: Administrators are volunteers. Be patient. Any review will be carried out by an administrator other than the one who blocked you. as well as Often you will find more than one user commenting on your block, or a mini-discussion happening. The administrator who blocked you may contribute, but any decision will be made by the reviewing administrator who takes all points made into account.. -- ferret (talk) 15:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry, i didn't read that before. HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi there, it's been really long since i have been blocked, and no other patroller seemed to have respond, i have been checking everyday in here for a hope someone will reply, what am i to do now? please reply. thank you. User:Ferret/@Ferret:, and User:Sergecross73/@Sergecross73:. HimuTheEditor (talk) 18:12, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SpacemanSpiff[edit]

User:SpacemanSpiff/@SpacemanSpiff:. Hi there, i saw you declined my request for which i wouldn't argue. you see, i have gone through all the possible related guidelines to my mistake here again and again, and i also understand why i was blocked. you said, i still don't understand, could you please tell me what you meant by that? i have waited patiently for 12 days waiting for a reply, and i believe i have provided you with all the reasons of why i should be unblocked, please look into it. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -6 August 2022-[edit]

Okay, so as you say, i'll stay away from English Wikipedia and keep thinking more about what i've done wrong here, um just in case any patroller reads through, i'll post again after a while, i still hope you can unblock me as i know and have realized my mistake for which i take responsibility. i won't be appealing for any unblocks now, though, as that would probably appeal for unblock guidelines, i'll just post here, so you know, that i haven't given up, and all i ask is for rope and if i'm to be unblocked i'll make good use of it. that is all. thank you!HimuTheEditor (talk) 10:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hi again, as stated above by the previous reviewing adminstrator, i have waited for a reasonable amount of time and have also read thoroughly read the policies. And as said before, i clearly understand why i was blocked, and won't repeat the same mistakes ever again. can i now be unblocked so i can start contributing to Wikipedia again? thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 6:27 am, Today (UTC−4)

Decline reason:

A reasonable amount of time means six months or more. That's after January 14, 2023. If one is strict about this, six months from the time of your last edit, which was August 6. Without more socking. Without editing not logged in. In the end, a checkuser will need to approve of any unblock. They'll want to make sure you have not evaded your block. You can more fully address all the reasons for your block then. Thanks-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:19, 19 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Asking to be unblocked and courtesy pings[edit]

Hi there, I am not sure whom to ping to see this message, but I'm positive some admin will see this. I know it's not January 14 yet, as stated by the previous admin who declined my request for unblock. I just wanted to say that I have been looking at this page ever since that day, hoping I'd get unblocked, I also stared at all the absurd edits I made in that time. Looking back I think it was good that I was blocked because, well, how else would I introspect. This just might not be enough, but I just wanted to ask can I now be unblocked? I now completely understand why exactly I was blocked, and your concern for blocking me. I've grown and learnt from my past mistakes, and will not repeat them. You can also now do the check user-thingy to check that I've not evaded my block. I hope you can look into it. Good day & stay safe! HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:08, 12 December 2022 (UTC) --Pings: It's been a while and i think without appealing for unblock or pinging someone nobody will see the message. I apologize for disturbing you but i do not know of any other admins to ping, i hope you can look into this. thank you for your time! User:SpacemanSpiff/@SpacemanSpiff:, User:Sergecross73/@Sergecross73:, ferret/@Ferret and Ferret:. HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:44, 13 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -18 January 2023-[edit]

((unblock|reason=Hi there, I've patiently waited for the period of 6 months as told by last reviewing admin, I've not edited anything other than my own talk page (that too for asking questions), and I've not evaded my block. Can I now be allowed to put forward my reasons for being unblocked? thank you! [[User:HimuTheEditor|HimuTheEditor]] ([[User talk:HimuTheEditor#top|talk]]) 15:39, 18 January 2023 (UTC)))

As a checkuser, I see no evidence of recent block evasion. That should clear the checkuser part of this block. I leave the review to the next passing admin. --Yamla (talk) 17:06, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for confirming, I'll be patiently waiting for next admin's answer. Just to be more specific, I've not edited in the past six months as told by the previous admin, except for the one edit that I made on my talk page a few days ago. thank you for your time!HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suggest you go ahead and post your reasons to be unblocked. PhilKnight (talk) 19:27, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi there, by reading above you would mostly understand why I was blocked.
Now as to my reasons for why I should be unblocked, I'll start from the scratch, I promise and as you may see through my previous edits, I never had any ill-intent to vandalize the pages. I just thought that what I did what correct and good, I didn't knew that things like Manual of Styles existed, eventually, I got to learn about them, messing right and left I started learning about the style guide, rules to follow and that there's consensus when there's conflicts for edits.
Now, previously I was blocked for a time period of 48h for edit conflicts with a fellow editor, later we came to a conclusion, and it was solved.
I later created 2 account(s): Orangefeliscatus, and shortly after which I created the account, Paperpseudonym. (Just for the record, these are the only ones I ever did create). Btw, at the time I created them I had no conflicts, or blocks whatsoever. The reason I created them was because well it may sound absurd, but my mind has this thingy called presence on Internet where I come up with a Internet name and use it social medias etc, shortly after which my mind tells me it is a embarrassing name, and is contaminated, and that makes me want to delete all the accounts associated with it, and start fresh new, oh boy would you believe how many emails and social medias I delete for giving in to my OCD. Anyhow, I didn't knew about fresh start in-depth, that you should not edit on the same topics after starting fresh, etc. I edited the same pages and was on walking on thin line of getting into same conflicts, I messed up and got into edits that created dispute in the past too, you could say, like I made plenty edits with my new accounts, most were definitely correct but few created disputes. But it still remains and I admit that I was at the one at fault. I was then blocked when a checkuser found out, and I got to know about what I have done.
During the time I was blocked, I got to introspect, I looked on all of my past edits, I read again. I have grown. Those 6 months helped me learn and grow. These words might not be enough to prove that how apologetic I am for all the messes I have created on pages. I cannot change what I have done, but I can learn from them. I ask you to look into this and allow me to edit on Wikipedia once again. I promise to abide by the rules in future.
I'll wait patiently for your reply, and again, if I missed anything or was unclear, please respond back and I'll try to answer straightforward. thank you for reading! HimuTheEditor (talk) 17:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, it's been almost a month, and there's no reply yet. Please reply. thank you! HimuTheEditor (talk) 11:00, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -14 April 2023-[edit]

Hello. I patiently waited for the time period as told by an admin before, I have also stated my reasons for why I should be unblocked. And it's been a little longer than a while, I am not sure what to do right now as no one seems to reply anything. I will just sit here checking the page for any updates almost everyday, I have faith, so, please reply and give a chance for me to edit Wikipedia again. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hello, I have had to apply for unblock again because no one's responded on the talk page, please read through the above texts i have written and respond. I'd be thankful. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 09:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

Your unblock request was insufficiently convincing. You are free to make a new, substantially different, unblock request. Frankly, though, I have to say the odds are against you. It's very likely you won't be unblocked on en.wikipedia. Yamla (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

UTRS appeal #73716 [edit]

is closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, User:Deepfriedokra, thank you for your response regarding my unblock appeal. I admit I was wrong, and I also understand why I am blocked, If i was not blocked I don't think i would have understood the situation, but I really hope you understand my intentions weren't bad. Addressing your question, what would I do different if I am to be unblocked? I will not repeat the mistakes I have done in the past, and say if I ever do my find myself in a position of an edit conflict with a fellow editor, I will not revert their edit and will clear my doubt and discuss it on the talk page rather than forcing what I think is right which is what I did in the past, I have also ignored templates for editing in the past which i will not repeat. that is all that I could think of to compose in words. Also, please understand, I have waited for almost a year, only posting my queries here on talk page and waiting months for reply, I have not once evaded my block, can I please be given a chance to fix what I have done? Although as stated by another admin before, i understand the odds are against me but the only thing i can do is try, Please find it in your heart to forgive me for the mistakes that I did in the past. thank you! HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please follow the instructions for requesting unblocking. Please use the unblock request template as you have done before. Please be aware that this is a check user block, so a WP:check user would need to agree to your being unblocked.. Please read the Guide to Appealling Blocks. Courtesy ping @Ferret: Thanks, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deepfriedokra Just as info, I did retire checkuser rights, so I'm not sure how that would impact my comments on this now. I cannot do a follow-up check, at the least. This was, effectively, a CIR block compounded by socking. -- ferret (talk) 16:53, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello again, @Deepfriedokra: / @Ferret: could you tell me what to do now? what's this CIR block thingy? i don't understand. HimuTheEditor (talk) 06:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hello, to the reviewing admin please read the text from the title "UTRS appeal #73716 " which is just above, i have above mentioned necessary information and also tried my best to tell you my reasons for why i should be unblocked, if they do not seem appealing or are not clear, it is a request please post your comments and tell me what to do instead of rejecting the request, i have done everything everytime my time appeal is rejected and come back after it's solved. thank you! (Also, if you're a check user, i had be thankful if you could check and state it as mentioned by User:Deepfriedokra above.) HimuTheEditor (talk) 12:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficient for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
    1. understand what you have been blocked for,
    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 19:57, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

no replies? :([edit]

Hi @Deepfriedokra, it's been a while but no one's replied yet, can you please ask some other fellow admin to review my case, wait, come to think of it, you are an admin yourself right? are you not able to review my case because you do not have the check user thingy? i understand why ferret cannot review it as they are the ones who blocked me and from what i understand another admin other than the one who blocked needs to review it? HimuTheEditor (talk) 07:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, we are all over-worked and unpaid. They will get to it when they get to it. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, okay. I understand, thank you for the reply. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:52, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deepfriedokra, hello again, i hope you're doing well. Sorry for bugging you but it's been a little longer than a month and no one seems to be replying, i have been checking the page daily for an update, could you please tell what to do now? thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Remove the "retired" template? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ohhh, now i see, that's it, it should be the template i was wondering why wasn't anyone replying, they probably visited the page to see the template and thought i have retired so no use discussing. thank you for pointing that out, i have now removed it! HimuTheEditor (talk) 06:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deepfriedokra, it's been a while since i posted my appeal for unblock again and no one seems to have replied. I am afraid if i wait a little more longer an admin would have to reject as for no responses just like it happened previously. I write to you not regarding my appeal, i just want to ask, is my appeal or my case that bad that no one even seems to reply to it? i am sure i wrote everything as concisely as possible in my latest request. what to do now? where to go? thank you for if you do reply. HimuTheEditor (talk) 03:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Welp, you cannot just say you understand. You need to describe clearly and concisely what merited a bloc, what you would do different, and what constructive edits you would make. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:22, 26 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We don't care how long you waited. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, I see, I understand. I have edited my appeal accordingly. thank you for your response. HimuTheEditor (talk) 05:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deepfriedokra, could you please look at my appeal, if not possible to actually review it for unblock, could you tell if i have covered everything, is there something else that i should mention, is the appeal concise and clear? sorry for bothering you, thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:28, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -18 July 2023-[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hello, to the reviewing admin, if you're reading this, I assure you that the block is no longer necessary, i completely understand why i was blocked and my edits will no longer be disupritve towards Wikipedia or any other editor, and i also understand that my these words might just not be enough to assure you that i am trustworthy, but please, i hope that you also take into account that i have waited for longer than a year without evading my block and reasoning with others, that time was plenty for me to introspect on my actions and for what i have done, i ask for one chance to prove myself that my new edits will not be disruptive. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:39, 18 July 2023 (UTC) -edit-Reply[reply]
--What caused my block?: Creating a new account and thinking of it as fresh start and using it to edit topics edited by the previous account, and participating in old disputes over edits which were already discussed through. My edits mainly comprised to the track listing format. Please note, at that time, I didn't know that we were not supposed to make edits that would identify us or make edits that were disputed before. I admit that I was at fault.
--What I would do different: I now understand what my mistake was (creating new account in the name of fresh start and violating all the fresh start rules whilst also editing over silly things that were not even fully correct as I didn't read the rules for track listing completely). If I am given a chance these are the things that I would do different: 1. Mention clearly on my talkpage of all the accounts I have used, discontinue editing from old accounts and stick to one account and not feddle over edits already discussed through. And also, before making any edit I will make sure I first read fully about the format of what I wish to edit, and speaking of format, I will not just stick to editing formats and instead make edits that are actually useful like adding missing summaries, or information or completing incomplete articles. that is all. HimuTheEditor (talk) 05:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

Based on the discussion below, I'm not confident you will be able to follow a one account restriction even if accepted by you. Borders on wikilawyering even in accepting a chance to come back. Unblock declined. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:30, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

ferret: CU doesn't show any recent socking and this is one of the best appeals I've read in a while (as someone whose default position is always going to be to decline an appeal...) I'd unblock, but not without your agreement. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:42, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
TonyBallioni This has always been more a CIR case than rampant socking. They would gather warnings, then abandon account to "clean start"... except they would just continue editing exactly as before, in the exact same areas. If you're comfortable with the CU data and they agree to a one account restriction (There's no more clean starts), I'm good if you're good. -- ferret (talk) 13:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Forigve me, i am not sure if it's appropriate of me to speak while you two discuss, but i'd like to tell, you might think that I created HimuTheEditor, then Orangefeliscatus and then Paperpseudonym, all for clean start, but that's not right. you see, i only ever abandoned HimuTheEditor because I changed email, and at that time, I used to reset my phone and delete the old email thinking if i updated my email, my online presence would be contaminated (and this led to me creating new email addresses over and over again thinking the latter one wasn't perfect, it was an irrational fear as i also have ocd and thinking my old email looked amateur, though, with time and proper help i was able to grow out of it. ferret, i understand your concern as if you gaze my talkpage or past edits it would seem that i would just do what you pointed out, but i assure you that won't be true, i'll live up to the unblock and make useful contributions. i mean it when i say it, i am really sorry for all the trouble that i caused in the past. HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:40, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am willing to unblock you on the condition of a one account restriction: that means going forward you can only use this account, you may not clean start under any circumstances, and you may not use any other account, whether declared publicly or not. If you accept these terms, let me know and I will unblock. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:29, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, before i agree i want to ask a few things if you're okay with (before you read please know that i ask these questions solely because i am a little not clear on this and i will NOT create any new account or do anything unless i am allowed to), why would it not be appropriate to clean start again? is it like that'd be evading scrutiny because the others should know what edits i made in the past? clean start says you can clean start if you do not have any active conflicts or blocks. i am a little confused, is it not possible because of how i violated the rules of clean start in the past? but isn't that the whole purpose of clean start because of past mistakes? I am sure admin/check user can always keep a check on me if they wish to? HimuTheEditor (talk) 04:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A one account restriction is a special type of restriction often given to editors who we unblock after a sockpuppetry block. What it means is that the policy on clean starts and on legitimate uses of alternative accounts does not apply to you because the community, ArbCom, or unblocking admin/CU is only willing to unblock if you agree that you will only use one account and will not use alternative accounts even if they would otherwise be okay. In other words: because you abused multiple accounts in the past, we are only willing to let you edit again with the clarity that any attempt to clean start, any attempt to have an alternative account (declared or undeclared), any attempt to create a WP:LEGIT second account will be treated as abuse of multiple accounts for you and you will be indefinitely blocked again as a violation of this sanction. Basically what this restriction says is that because you have abused multiple accounts in the past, we are unwilling to let you have a clean start or any other form of alternative account that might otherwise be permitted.
en.wiki policy does not allow for checks without evidence of abuse. The way this would be enforced would be the same as any other sock case: if someone noticed a second account they thought was you, it would be reported and if it was found to be you, both accounts would be blocked.
I hope that was clear, but from a practical standpoint I'll also explain the options you have: you can either agree to this restriction and I'll unblock you, or you can say you are unwilling to follow it, and I will decline your appeal. The choice is yours but there isn't really any negotiating here. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:42, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Last query I promise, you said "restriction often given to editors..." what do you mean by often? are there times or cases where they are allowed to clean start? is this one account restriction permanent? like say, if i make constructive edits for 1 year, 2 years or maybe a decade, would clean start be considerable then? that is all, rest all of my doubts are clear. HimuTheEditor (talk) 06:26, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was afraid this would happen, i apologize, my intention was really not wikilawyering. I agree to your condition and will abide by the rules and stick to my this one and and only account. HimuTheEditor (talk) 06:36, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can submit another appeal and see if someone else is comfortable unblocking you (I give my permission solely from a CU perspective for the unblock, assuming its within a reasonable period of time.) I am not comfortable unblocking you at this time based on your responses above. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
TonyBallioni I again apologise, but please, i ask you to reconsider. I am sorry for taking your time and thank you for your consideration. HimuTheEditor (talk) 06:42, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry for being impatient but please don't go, i am afraid no one else would respond and my request will be declined like last time due to no response, you were the only admin in such a long time to show consideration towards my request, please i have longed for a chance, as i said before, i apologise for the silly queries and agree to your condition. thank you for if do respond. HimuTheEditor (talk) 06:53, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

question[edit]

ferret, I wanted to ask, is it appropriate to delete appeal for unblock? or does it needs to stay like that once posted till a reply has been posted by an admin? HimuTheEditor (talk) 12:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Declined appeals cannot be removed or deleted while you are still blocked. Unanswered appeals you can remove. -- ferret (talk) 12:49, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh okay, thank you for the reply. If you don't mind could you give an advice, what shall I do now? I am blocked and well it would seem getting unblocked is tough. I cannot edit, cannot create an account, I am just sitting ducks here. I was wondering would it be alright for me to ask others to implement edits? like you know what's it called reviewing the edits before publishing or something. I could ping the last user who made constructive edits to the article and if they don't mind I can write the information the article misses and they could publish it? It does seem like a lot of work, like i doubt it would work as people are busy, but hey it's better than just sitting here right? I asked you because I was doubtful because i am not supposed to edit, so would be suggesting edit be against the rules as well? HimuTheEditor (talk) 13:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC) (On second thoughts, well, that was a bad idea, the reviewing thingy... a very bad one at that. Sorry, ignore that :**Reply[reply]

To reword or to not reword the Unblock request[edit]

-courtesy pings- ferret Yamla
Though we are supposed to reword our appeals for unblock if they are not answered for 2 weeks, it's been longer than 2 weeks but i am not sure what else i can even add to the request, i have written all that i could think of, no one just seems to respond, no decline, no accept let alone any comments or opinions. Please, I have served my time, and i also understand my mistake, i don't how else to word it. You may think, I won't abide by the one account restriction or will edit again, but please look, for the past 407 days, all that i have edited is my this talk page, i have not created any account, not evaded my block, if that or my words are not enough to prove it, how else am i supposed to do it? HimuTheEditor (talk) 03:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why must this happen, i have wasted so many words trying to compose my feelings, the pageviews never seem to go down, and i doubt other than a handful few view others' unblock requests other than admins, currently, 894 admins on Wikipedia and still no one even bothers to reply. this is very mean, ferret, you clearly took some time a while back to tell me to fix titles on my page, and your recent contributions are active till today and yet you still do not reply. If you do not wish to answer to any of my questions, please, just come ahead and once type it out that i should stop pinging you. why leave me hanging here. I know i made a mistake but i have served my time, and yet still i am not even given a chance. HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Himu, we're all volunteers, and we do not owe you constant attention. I've given what advice I can, but made clear before that I myself would not handle this case. You've exhausted some of the other administrators who work the appeal space, and at the moment there's really little you can do but wait to see if a volunteer is willing to handle the appeal. -- ferret (talk) 15:47, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I do not ask for any constant attention, i just did what i could and even though it's been months but nothing comes out of it, which is why i just wanted to ask what to do now. i also already understand that you would not look into the appeal as someone other than the blocking admin needs to see it. but what if i have doubts, who do i ask? how do i gather? and what do you mean by i have exhausted other admins, and lastly, say, if no volunteer is willing to handle to appeal, where do i go then? I respect your reply and you are not obliged to reply back any further, i understand, if you wish not to, i will follow and wait. HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:56, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If no one is willing to take on the appeal, there isn't anywhere you go. It means no one is convinced or willing to take on responsibility for your unblock. You'll have to move on, and find a new hobby. -- ferret (talk) 16:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ferret, this is important, totally slipped my mind, i wanted to ask, i have been reading into others' unblock appeals and i saw admins suggesting blocked users to edit Wikipedia other than en.wikipedia, how does that work? in my case, would it be appropriate of me to edit on Wikipedia other than en.wikipedia. I can make good contributions there and attach them here, so it may potentially help the unblock? HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit on other language(s) Wikipedia other than en.wikipedia.org?[edit]

ferret / Deepfriedokra hi, i hope you're doing well. I looked up everywhere but i still cannot find anything specified by the rules, could you please tell if i can edit on Wikipedia other than en.wikipedia, say, for example, fr.wikipedia.org? Would that be okay? or is it against the rules? and also, if allowed, do i need to disclose my account here on this page? please note, i have not created/edited anywhere other than my talk page here, and this is just a query, i won't take any risks and will only edit if i am allowed to. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 11:33, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -4 September 2023[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I have now understood the reasons for why I was blocked, and i write this appeal to assure you that it is no longer necessary. I have now understood the reasons for why I was blocked: they were not just limited to violating the fresh start rules or making the same mistakes again but also CIR, I realized this recently and if you're concerned I will go back to editing areas I lack the knowledge for, I can edit different stuff instead and edit the topics I edited in past after I have learned more, or by discussing the edit in question on the article's talk page. I lacked the courage to admit that I was at fault or incompetent, I am truly sorry for all the mess that I created in the past, instead of helping all I did was create more work for others to clean up.
If there are any sanctions that must be imposed on me before getting unblocked, I will accept them but please, consider my request and let me board this editing ship again. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 17:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

As long as you are not blocked on other versions of Wikipedia, you can edit them. There doesn't seem to be a pathway forward at this time for you on this version. 331dot (talk) 12:47, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

331dot thank you for your reply above. Regarding editing on other languages on Wikipedia, do i need to spell out my account of any other wiki here on this page if i do create one in the future? and, can i post an appeal for unblock again, you have rejected my previous one and i can't think of anything particularly new to add to my appeal (i ask this because i understand retyping the exact same appeal after it's been declined is not appropriate), i know my appeal was unanswered for a long while, but i am sure if it stays up (would it be okay if i request you not to decline it just because it has been unanswered) because i am sure there would be someone who might consider it, chances are less, but i'd like to cling to the hope. thank you for your time. HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You don't create a new account. You use this same one. -- ferret (talk) 14:15, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I didn't decline it because it was unanswered(I would have said so if I had), I declined it for the reason stated. You may make another appeal, but I advise against it at least before some time has passed, perhaps during which you can spend editing another version. 331dot (talk) 14:22, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
re ferret, oh what? you mean, log in with this one on other Wikipedia? I did not know that. But I am glad I asked, I have not created or edited anything yet. But i read and it seems, the admins and set of rules on Wikipedia differ from language to language, so is it mandatory to use this one? I don't understand completely, can you explain the reasoning behind because from what i understand, the sanctions (i am aware of complete wikipedia ban but in my case it's only for en.wiki) (say blocked on en.wikipedia.org only exists on en.wiki and not on fr.wiki, and the rules somewhat differ too, so how would editing from the same account make sense? I mean that not technically (yes sure the system would allow) but what are the other reasons? do you mean in the sense, that it helps with my case here if i build up a good editing history by editing on other languages because it would be easier to check my contributions? HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
re 331dot, if you are okay with that, could you tell why did you not consider my appeal? you have mentioned there does not seem to be a pathway forward, but would that be because you are not comfortable in believing that i would stick true to my one account restriction? HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:40, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I did consider it. I declined it for the reason stated, which I think speaks for itself. I cannot remove a checkuser block in any event as I am not a checkuser.
That different versions of Wikipedia have different rules is not relevant to you editing them. It's up to you to abide by the rules of whichever version you are on. It would be best for you to use this account on other Wikipedias. 331dot (talk) 14:48, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I understand that, if i do edit I will abide by the rules regardless of the wikipedia version, but my question is, would it be a reason to block me there if i create a new account and edit there? its just a preference right? i cant find anything on this. HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We really can't speak to the rules of other Wikipedias, but NONE of the other projects will block you simply for being blocked here. However, I will warn you that Simple English has a "one strike you're out" recipotal rule. That is, if you're blocked on Enwiki and move to Simplewiki to show your editing, you get one chance. If they at all believe the same issues that occurred here are impacting Simple English, they will block you. -- ferret (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thank you for your reply, i understand now. last query, i promise, please note i am only asking because i am worried if i mess up again in the future for something i don't know or i am not sure about. So, in short, would it be okay for me to edit from my this account on simple.wikipedia as long as i abide by all the rules and my edits stay constructive? most importantly, do i mention there on my user page that i am blocked here? that is all. thank you so much for your time reading this and answering this, i really appreciate it and i am thankful. HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:40, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's ok to edit Simplewiki on this account. In fact, you are pretty much required to do so. To do otherwise, especially with a history of sockpuppetry, would likely be seen by Simple Wiki as further evasion and result in a block. You don't have to mention you're blocked. They know how to check. -- ferret (talk) 15:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
oh, i see. thank you for telling that. Mm i was doing it wrong till now too, what i was doing was almost like accepting my mistake but not doing anything to make up for it. I now know what i should do instead. I will try my best to make edits without causing any conflicts on simple.wiki. I want to ask though, what is the difference between en and simple wiki, is it just like the name suggests? I want to learn. From what I could find simple wiki keeps the article short and uses commonly accepted facts. How do i know what i write is proper? if you can, could you link to a few articles that might help me understand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HimuTheEditor (talkcontribs) 16:14, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi! I'm an admin and CheckUser on simplewiki, and can answer this question. The project focuses on simple language, not necessarily length of articles, content subjects, or type of sources used. You can read about editing simple at simple:WP:HOW. To note, as ferret alluded to above, we do have a "ONESTRIKE" policy: users blocked on other projects can be blocked without warning on simplewiki if their disruptive behavior continues. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 02:30, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thank you for your reply, I will do my best to be a better editor than I was yesterday and will not repeat the mistakes i made in the past. HimuTheEditor (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appeal for unblock -1 January 2024[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

HimuTheEditor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hi, happy new year! I post this appeal a few months after my first edit on simple.wiki. My edits were not many, 5 i think, but i made sure that they did not repeat the same mistakes that i did here, i also made sure to use talk page to communicate of any edit that may be not completely correct. If i was not blocked here, the me of today would not exist, me being blocked and standing here is the culmination of all my past edits, which i accept were incorrect. The experiences i had on wikipedia, the random stuff i learned, all of it, i couldn't cast it all away, so i must try one more time again and request you to please lend me a chance and let me edit once again. :I was blocked because i would edit what i thought was correct and did not listen when others intervened, i also did not use talk page to communicate, i made lots of repeated errors in track listing again, and again, and then later created a new account thinking of it as a fresh start and again went back to my incorrect ways of editing. At the time, i did not know that it was not truly fresh start if i went back to editing same topics but i admit i was at fault. This may not be plenty to convince you that i can be trusted again and i understand but please also see i have not once evaded my block since being first blocked in july 2022, I promise not to repeat the same mistakes i did in the past and live up to the unblock if given a chance. HimuTheEditor (talk) 11:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline reason:

Decline, for now: repetitive and not to the point. Drmies (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I read over this talk page. It was a slog. You keep managing to avoid answering the crucial question: will you stick to one account? That's a yes or no question. Also, no, I do not want you to start a new account: it's this account that will be unblocked, at least for now. Finally, if I were to decide to unblock you, you'd be on a zero revert probation, for three months. Meaning you may not revert an editor who reverted you--see Wikipedia:0RR. It's real simple, and if you wish to place another unblock request, address those things: you will stick to one account, it will be this account, you will not revert if you are reverted. Pinging ferret as the blocking admin; I'm not going to ping every other admin on this page since you've taken up enough time. OK one more: Deepfriedokra, to wish them a happy new year (and you too, of course, ferret!). Drmies (talk) 21:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Drmies: And to you as well.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Drmies and Deepfriedokra: I've bowed out of this one, I just have no more time. Admins are free to exercise their own judgement on unblocking. -- ferret (talk) 22:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Guess it all depends on the answers to the questions. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yep--User:Deepfriedokra, we'll see. Drmies (talk) 22:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Drmies Sorry, i forgot to mention it. Yes, I will stick to this one and only account for editing and yes I also accept the 3 months zero revert probation. Do i need to create a new unblock request mentioning the same? HimuTheEditor (talk) 05:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Deepfriedokra, short and simple. I can live with it; can you? Drmies (talk) 16:57, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, we're here now. We can just discuss. @Drmies: I don't think that the one account thing is the crucial question. As is so often the case, we've lost track of the root cause. What was it that lead to the first block and what will be done differently? I see concerns raised about WP:MOS. The WP:0RR will help with that, and I think the appellant comes close enough in the current unblock request to prevent further disruption.. .@HimuTheEditor: is there anything else leading up to that first 48 hour block that you need to address?
Also, unblocking following an indefinite duration block is a rare and precious gift. A second indefinite block is almost impossible to recover from. It might be best to withdraw this unblock request and make 500 edits on SIMPLEWIKI spread out over six months and then request unblocking. I think that would be better for all of us to live with, but I leave it to you. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright Himu--there you go, there's the offer. Drmies (talk) 18:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I sense a lack of enthusiasm in the Force. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deepfriedokra I'd like to note the Simple English suggestion was made before, and I even called in Vermont to assist. Following that, the user made... 10 edits over 2 days, and stopped. -- ferret (talk) 00:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I saw that, and it did not inspire confidence. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:36, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, i understand and will not repeat what led to my initial block, if i recall correctly, admin Sergecross73 blocked me for 48h explaning my disruptive edits and asking me to stop, which i did not listen to and insisted that i was not wrong and refused to stop my edit warring which led to my infinite block, almost all of my edits were related to manual of style or track listing, (at the time i did not read the templates for the same fully either and read them over the top, understood half and tried to impose my edits, looking back, it was a mess, my edits, my responses to warning). I cannot undo it and i am truly sorry for my past edits. I promise not to repeat the mistakes i did in past. About my edits on simple.wiki, though i started off pumped, i could not find many articles i had much knowledge about that i could contribute to specifically, i thought to create the articles that were missing but i couldn't finish as i was not very confident in that and so i stopped. About the editing 6 months on simple wiki and then posting here for unblock, could you please change the conditions, i give my word to you, if i am to do what i did in past and cause any trouble even remotely similar to the ones in past, you can block me and i will not post any unblock requests. I have changed and have confidence i can contribute to wikipedia now. Please have faith. I already tried creating new articles on simple.wiki but i could not complete them with the limited words. HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's been a while and there seems to be no reply. I understand. I don't have many options, so, well then I will apply for an unblock request in July and make useful contributions on simple.wiki. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 05:26, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@HimuTheEditor You did not ping Drmies or Deepfriedokra in your last reply. So unless they decided to watchlist your user talk, they did not ever see it. Honestly, Sergecross73 should weigh in, as he works in the content area you'll be in. -- ferret (talk) 15:15, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks Ferret; Himu, good luck. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I saw. Geh' mit Gott. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ferret, oh, welps, i thought they were watching the page so i did not ping. thank you for telling. well, i have already replied and i am sure they have read it but, Drmies, and Deepfriedokra, i said the statement above ferret because i thought you had read and that you thought there was nothing new to add to it, so i took that as your answer and did not want to be asking the same thing again. but now you are here, can we please discuss more? i'd be thankful. HimuTheEditor (talk) 15:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I thought you were of to SIMPLE:Wikipedia:Main Page -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Deepfriedokra, oh, that's because i thought that you were not replying as you might have thought there was nothing new to add to reply, but that's because i forgot to ping no? HimuTheEditor (talk) 16:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@HimuTheEditor You're basically being asked to explain why in the last round of unblock appeals, it was suggested that you edit on Simple Wiki for a while to demonstrate constructive editing. You edited for one day, then completely stopped. Why? -- ferret (talk) 16:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ferret, i stopped because i could not find any articles or topics i had knowledge about on simple.wiki. i made around 10 edits, i know they are small and me discontinuing shortly afterwards does not favour in my unblock appeal but i made sure they did not repeat the same mistakes i did before. if it does not sound repetetive would you be okay discussing my unblock appeal and my past behaviour? HimuTheEditor (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2 March, 2024[edit]

Hi there, I was not able to edit on simple.wiki after my last edit as i had exams coming up and shortly after which the internet was terminated at place due to protests. It's been a week since the internet was restored and after looking for a topic to edit on simple.wiki, i finally found it. I tried creating but it looked hard at first because of the limited words i was supposed to use but after trying for a while i was able to create it. This might be unnecessary but i wrote this just in case some admin was watching my page and thought i again did not edit on simple.wiki as i said i would before. i will try to make as many useful edits on simple.wiki and appeal for unblock after a while. thank you. HimuTheEditor (talk) 10:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]