Hi there,
I've seen your and User:Calton's thread on that Centauri may well be a sockpuppet of Gene Poole; looking at their edit histories, I'd say that's probably true. (* = Centauri, # = Gene Poole). Any admin responses to this? Should this be on RFC? Radiant_* 10:31, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
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Gene_Poole claims that an IP check confirms his separate identity from Centauri. [1] Is that true? Radiant_* 13:54, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry to call on you again, but tha above article has just appeared. I'm inclined to think that it's nonsense, but having had a girlfriend whose mother's family were Twerskys, I thought that I owed it to her to check. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:53, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I don't know who deleted it, but I still have it up on my screen, so it would be a doddle to recreate it. Should I? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:43, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
OK, I've undeleted it, and I'll contact SpaceFalcon2001 and ChanochGruenman. Thanks for helping. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:11, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you may want to see and add your comments to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#User:STP [2] Thanks. IZAK 09:33, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Mine is pink, Jayjg. Think pink. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:18, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
Thank you Jay for the support on my recent admin nomination; your vote meant a lot to me. I've been appreciating your work here for a while now. Happy editing, Antandrus 21:37, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please consider reading this new article I just created. --AladdinSE 11:56, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
Following the long discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese) regarding proper titling of Mainland China-related topics, polls for each single case has now been started here. Please come and join the discussion, and cast your vote. Thank you. — Instantnood 15:08, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
You temp-blocked 24.91.96.179 a while back, but he's back with a vengeance. Can you help out? Matthewcieplak 23:59, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You just posted "Please stop reverting the Israeli West Bank barrier article" to my page User:Feco/cats. I know why this behavior occurs (it's complicated) and I'm working to resolve it. However, however you intented to give that message did not get it. Can you give me the link to the UserTalk page you were trying to edit? I'll fix the problem that redirected you to my page, and check back to make sure your 3RR notice gets there. Feco 02:37, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
New Internationalist was started by Oxfam, but now is independent. It is a liberal/progressive human righs magazine with a very good reputation for accuracy.--Cberlet 03:14, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye on it. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 03:15, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Roger that... --Viriditas | Talk 03:54, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I need to get into the office to dig up some research materials on NOI and white supremacists. It's a tricky area, but I think I have documentation. Might take a few days.--Cberlet 15:02, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Has there been a slip up? Dont you think it should be called "Second Intifada", as the current name is as loaded as "occupied territories" is a loaded word. I think we should initiate a change in the article name. Is there a way to do this?
Thanks,
Guy Montag 07:50, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg. Thanks for notifying me on various disputed issues and inviting me to join the discussions. However, as have you probably noticed, I usually don't take up on these invitations. There are various reasons for this, the main two being (1) that you are doing such a good job arguing your position, that I usually can hardly find anything useful to add; and (2) that I currently don't have the time (and passion) to get into long, heated discussions. I used to spend a lot of my time arguing on Wikipedia. I found it to be a huge drain on my time and energy, and it was usually not very rewarding. So I'm currently following Wikipedia more from a distance, only getting into argument over my personal pet peeves.
I wish you luck and success in all your efforts here on Wikipedia. I really think you're doing a great job. I wish I had the talent, time, and motivation to do the same. Unfortunately, this is not the case, at least at this time. -- uriber 18:01, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I have nominated ((Hasid-stub)) (Template:Hasid-stub) for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Hasid-stub [3] for reasoning and for your input. Thank you. IZAK 07:38, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
We oughta get an uninvolved third party to intervene here. I'm pretty sure we're right, but it's not as clearcut as most of the usual Nazi vandalism, and we're too much in the middle of it to be any kind of adminly arbiters. It's an issue on the edge (opinion pieces with lots of facts in them as sources? reportage from David Irving's website, probably factual but strongly biased?). --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:23, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
--WE NEED SOME ADMINISTRATORS to review jayjg, SlimVirgin, jpgordon, and others for collusion to harass other Wikipedians. jayjg, SlimVirgin, jpgordon, and others should not follow Wikipedians around the site deleting their input. It is obvious to any observer that they are acting in their own interests, not the interests of Wikipedia at large.
--We also cannot allow "tag-teams" like jayjg and jpgordon to circumvent the 3R rule and discredit the open process on Wikipedia. It is clear to anyone who reviews the activity of jayjg et al what a major theme of their beliefs is. We cannot allow individuals with personal (and perhaps racial or religious) biases to dominate, harass and block others' ability to freely contribute data and factual information into Wikipedia. They seem to believe that they alone can control the addition and deletion of material on certain articles. Their actions prove this, and I encourage any Administrator to review them.
Why did you remove the link to recreational drug use from the drug abuse article? Guttlekraw 19:44, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I notice that you reverted this without explaining why. I'm guessing that you think that the education programs were aiming only to prevent what they considered 'abuse' of illegal drugs, rather than their use in any context? Could you explain why you preffer the term abuse to recreational use? The implication is that we are agreeing with their judgement that recreational use is automatically abusive. That seems like siding with one point of view to me. Guttlekraw 19:56, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Well, I'm not sure. The program refered to targetted 12-14 year olds, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was encouraging abstention from all drugs, including tobacco, alcohol, and marijuana. The school based program staff probably feel that any recreational use of these drugs by 12-14 year olds is abuse. That's ok as a point of view, but it's not a fact. The fact is that they wanted to reduce or prevent all recreational use. Guttlekraw 20:08, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The program specifically mentions alcohol and tobacco. I think that it is certainly possible to argue that a 14 year old can use tobacco and alcohol recreationally without it being abuse. Many countries outside the US allow use of alcohol by people under 14 in certain circumstances, for example, in the UK children over 5 may drink in restaurants with their parents or guardians. Whether it is 'abuse' is a matter of opinion. Guttlekraw 20:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That's ok, I don't agree, but what about the alcohol example? Guttlekraw 20:20, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Well, I dispute that use of tobacco by 12 year olds is automatically abuse in every case (for example, see native american coming of age ceremonies). It is still an opinion. Even if we accept that tobacco is, whether alcohol is does matter, since they are still (if we accept that 14 year olds can use alcohol non-abusively) trying to prevent recreational drug use (as well as drug abuse). Guttlekraw 21:03, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Well, they are trying to prevent all use of these drugs. That includes recreational use of the drugs. They think any use of them (including recreational) is 'abuse'. I think that we should report that they think recreational use is automatically abuse, but not report it as fact. Guttlekraw 22:02, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Well, it is their point of view that any use = abuse. Others have a point of view that not all use = abuse. Therefore, the most neutral thing to say seems to be that they are trying to prevent use, which they believe to be abuse. Do you disagree with that? Are you really saying that they are not trying to prevent the recreational use of alcohol by 14 year olds? Guttlekraw 22:21, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi - you reverted this, without mentioning why - I am presuming again that you feel that the drug use on the film site was 'abusive', but can we reference who thought this? Did Coppola himself say this? If not, who did? Otherwise I prefer the more neutral 'recreational drug use'. Abuse is definately a judgement - If we use it, I think we should say who thought it was abusive. Guttlekraw 20:03, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for leaving only 18 hours between the reverts. Would it be too much to leave it protected in the state it's in (i.e. without the bogus claims, and the "Vote now!")? For a start, GRider is blocked from editing, and when that expires he wouldn't be able to edit it anyway. Chris talk back 22:22, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what you want from me in regards to this article. I have added in to my watchlist-- if you need more asistance please elaborate on my talk page. Thanks. -JCarriker 06:48, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you may want to look at some pathetic "editing" at Robert Maxwell. Thanks. IZAK 08:21, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
We have a dispute in Talk:Israeli West Bank barrier with Mistiq and AladdinSE over the term East Jerusalem. I and Leifem are of the contention that East Jerusalem is a not a seperate city at and should not be called such, but has always historically been called Jerusalem, much like Berlin has never been called by its georgraphical areas unless under its brief stint under soviet control.
We need to settle the issue and you to arbitrate. I am aware that the apporpriate place to argue this is in East Jerusalem talk, but I would still value your opinion.
Guy Montag 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Did you check the vandal request at all? User is vandalising the project. --Cool Cat My Talk 03:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for removing the listing. —Charles P. (Mirv) 03:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. --Powergrid 03:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hello, Here is Messhermit. Thanks for reverting my page from Vandalism. A lot ! Messhermit 04:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The yahoo reference is because the company conciously is putting up references to its site. If one shall refer to all search engines it would be a long list. Why not Google as well. Its either all or none I say. See also the debate on main page about Yahoo. Axezz 21:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
THE main page of Wikipedia. I am just concerned with commercial messing with wikipedia. It has historically happened to almost every voluntarily webservers on the Internet. Just waiting till banners are flashing all over Wikipedia. I may be dystopical. Just put it back up if you'll like. Axezz 21:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi! What reversions are you talking about?? Afaik, I haven't edited anyone else's user page in a long time, save to put a nice image on Anthere's. +sj + 00:59, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Khazars is up for nomination on Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates. Since you were involved in some discussions I thought you would be interested. Your vote and/or comments would be appreciated. Thanks! --Briangotts 16:00, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Jmw0000 08:51, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Isn't this a simple case of kicking him out? I mean he's been vandalizing everywhere - Hawaii, for heaven's sake! Where do I sign? --Leifern 11:07, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC)
Hi, you have nothing to do with this article, but since you've been helpful in some controversial areas, I wondered if you might offer me a suggestion on how to deal with the recent problem I'm having over there. Probably the thing to do is to take a day or two away from the article but my honest feeling is that my NPOV changes are being blocked inappropriately. I'm not really sure what to do with that. Kaisershatner 23:10, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hang on, maybe we've fixed it without you...Kaisershatner 23:19, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure that what is mentioned in your edit summary is correct, Jayjg. First, a Mizrahi can be considered a Sephardi. Second, I'm not sure that Yemenite are considered a seperate category (nor, again, that these categories are directly applicable to one another). It is my understanding that this is often used as a distinction intimating origin from a Western(ized)/non-Western(ized) localities, rather than the place of origin being West-East to one another (for e.g. Bulgaria viz Tunisia, etc.). Interestingly, based on a cursory search I did just now (I forgot about this article and your edit summary reminded me of it), genetically, there seems to be less in common between Yemenite Jews than all others (including Ethiopian Jews), but I am unable to trace the actual study at this time. El_C 04:52, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
On closer read, my jubilation was a bit premature. He is, in fact, speaking of the "new Mizrachim," a concept increasingly viewed as cultural rather than ethnic:
What is "mizrachim" is something everyone knows
[hah!] since the 1990s, at least ... but the question begs what is, or who are, the "new mizrahim."
(from the first paragraph)
Then he goes on to tie it to culture, and esp. a political culture shared by Jews who originated from Middle Eastern countries, and includes Yeman, Iran, Morocco, and others — does that mean that Yeman was hitherto excluded from the (old) Mizrahi category, remains a pressing question. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I'll see if I can revisit the topic soon. Incidentally, this was/is a matter of contention in .he's discussion, too. Perhaps I'll ask some of them to clarify and elaborate on their positions. Much of the .he article, incidentally, is based on studies by a sociologist, Yehuda Shenhav , who is a leading figure in the organization whose links above I cited. El_C 05:59, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Mental note: Chmielnicki massacre Chmielnicki uprising, and most certainly could be its own article rather than remain limited to a section within the former (which presently does not even exist). El_C 08:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jay, please delete entirely this page --> Wikipedia talk:Israeli West Bank barrier/Archive1 ONLY, which I mistakenly created in the process of archiving the discussions at Talk:Israeli West Bank barrier. I subsequently successfuly created three CORRECT archive pages which are fine. Thanks. IZAK 08:15, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Check this out: Hinduism and Judaism Cordially yours, Slrubenstein | Talk 18:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Listed on the talk page where? I stated on the talk page that the factual non controversial changes should go in, but the poor word choice changes and the censorship of information should not. How does that equal a factual dispute? Kaiser claimed there is a factual dispute with the article, you should give him time to state exactly what is wrong with the current version. If he/you don't that is borderline disrupting wikipedia to prove a point (adding a disputed tag when you aren't getting your version, you have to actually indicate what is disputed with the other version). I am careful about the 3RR, I only come close to it because I don't use sockpuppets. zen master T 02:27, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
And it seems like User:Islamist is on a mission. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 04:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for attending to those links. Rich Farmbrough 08:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jay, another stub ((Sefer-stub)) has appeared concerning Sefer! and so I have gone to the efforts of proposing that it be deleted, see Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Sefer-stub [4] Please vote. Thank you. IZAK 10:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes, that is a rather good example. Let's keep looking out for these. - Mustafaa 02:24, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You should have blocked User:Slrubenstein as well. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:22, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
Jayjg: Are you an Israel apologist? You seem to be involved in most of the articles concerning Israel's terroristic activities. Adraeus 00:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I wonder why you have deleted my addition of Poles from Anti-Semitism [5] page? The last sentence, a quote, in that section says: "Wherever they found the szlachta, royal officials or Jews, they killed them all, sparing neither women nor children. They pillaged the estates of the Jews and nobles, burned churches and killed their priests, leaving nothing whole." IMHO, besides Jews this quote refers to Poles, why then not to name their ethnicity? --Ttyre 00:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
User: SERDUN just wants to thank User: Jayjg for posting my article via email.
Hi, please see discussion at Talk:Meforshim, and see RK's recent edits about Rabbi at [6] thanks. IZAK 07:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hey there Jayjg, would you mind taking a look at Thimerosal? I was drawn there from an RFC about it, but I'm running up against a POV editor who insists on deleting cited information that is at odds with his/her POV. The article is a mess right now and I hope to be able to help clean it up, and I would appreciate your feedback and help there. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 15:18, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
FWIW, I think IrishPunkTom is right in this case. The paragraph in question was extremely unbalanced and frankly read like a piece of pro-Israeli nonsense. He has put it into perspective by giving other examples that take the false dichotomy between Arab and Israeli terrorism away. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:40, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Could you take another look at this revert? Drug abuse is clearly a value judgement - the definition changes depending on who you are and your opinion. There is no one 'official' definition, even British and American medical associations disagree on what it is. The current version does not reflect this. Please let me know what you think, specifically why you think the topic of harm reduction is not relevant to a discussion of treatment for drug abuse. Guttlekraw 19:53, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please take this irrelevant rant off this page. My question is to Jayjg, not you. Guttlekraw 18:06, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have been following the content dispute over at List of national flags, and of the diffrences between the two versions there is one thign I don't get. I am not sure how regroups is better than enumerates in the first paragraph. Actually I am not sure how regroups even makes sense in that location. Even though I am a native speaker of english I looked both words up to try and find some way that regroups would work and I came up blank. Enumerates does seem to work. But, grammar and such have never been my strongest point and since you committed the version with regroups each time I though I would ask. (Incidently I think I agree with you version of the rest of the article) Dalf | Talk 07:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jay, RK is now "building a case" for the beginnings of lady "rabbis" within Orthodox Judaism. See what's happeing at Rabbi and Talk:Rabbi, you may also want to contribute more information to this important article about rabbis in general. Thank you and have a Chag Kasher VeSameach! IZAK 08:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Help me out here, because I'm trying not to jump to the conclusion that V is either malicious or stupid. You want me to cite sources that state that harm reduction is revelant to a discussion of treatment for drug abuse? Are you serious? What other articles have people removing relevant sections for this reason? If you like I can pull up some scientific article on harm reduction, but I don't see what difference that will make, even V agrees that harm reduction is relevant. Can you please explain what you mean? Guttlekraw 18:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. Two things: 1. It does not address the issue of why you removed the section on harm reduction from the drug abuse treatment article. Can you specify what kind of sources you think should be cited for this? 2. I have, in some places, replaced the phrase 'drug abuse' with 'drug use', but only where the term drug use is more appropriate. Where someone is describing the use as abuseive (a medical or legal opinion) I have tried to reference who that is, since there are multiple opinions on what abuse is depending on whether you are a doctor, a lawyer, an American or a European. I'm not actually on some pov crusade. Please take another look, especially at the harm reduction issue, which I really don't understand you reversion of. Guttlekraw 19:02, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hello, J. I'm new to all of this. But I couldn't help but see on the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review entry an aside that most likely was written as a joke that your re-inserted onto the main page.
More recently the Greensburg Tribune-Review has created a free evening city paper, entitled Trib P.M., which helps boost the publisher's readership and increase ad rates. Many believe the "Right-Wing Rag of the Three Rivers" does this to remain in the same category as the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
I am sure you would agree that this isn't cricket with Wiki's POV neutrality requirements. It's a snide joke, and not a real fact about the newspaper in Pittsburgh.
The other comments were cut out because they weren't really on point or were redundant.
Please respond to my disussion page if need be. I'll go back and take out the sections I mentioned.
Lionel of Pittsburgh
J,
That IP address is for the research library computers at a pooled newsroom. Hundreds of people use them every week. I have started on this and am not one of the original people making corrections.
The person who drew the ire of Gamaliel is an unpaid student intern. While she probably wasn't very polite, she was right about his intransigence. Apparently, he began the entry with an outright lie, and refused to change it.
She continued to try to edit the entry. She is using the experience on the copy editing of that and another as a thesis topic.
Please review what I mentioned above. I'm sure you will see that it is not neutral. No one would seriously write this and consider it "neutral."
More recently the Greensburg Tribune-Review has created a free evening city paper, entitled Trib P.M., which helps boost the publisher's readership and increase ad rates. Many believe the "Right-Wing Rag of the Three Rivers" does this to remain in the same category as the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
Lionel of Pittsburgh 21:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)Lionel of Pittsburgh
1. The newspaper is not headquartered in Greensburg, but Pittsburgh, hence the name. See also other references in the main article. 2. There is no "Right-Wing Rag of the Three Rivers." This is a snide joke. 3. "does this to remain in the same category as the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette." Ibid. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is the slightly larger competitor. 4. The evening paper isn't an evening paper. It's an afternoon paper (distributed beginning at 2 p.m.), and it costs 25 cents. There is a link from the newspaper's official website that says as much. 5. The author of the comment has admitted in another forum that it's a joke, that the editors of Wikipedia have fallen for [www.voy.com/158430/1184.html] & [www.voy.com/158430/1187.html].
If this is a question of the IP address, I can simply post from my own desk instead of the library, which will have a different IP user tag.
Hi there, it looks like my question got lost in your archive - why did you remove the section on harm reduction from drug use in your revert? Did you mean to or was it accidental? Thanks, Guttlekraw 15:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Could you please vote on the proposed move Links between Iraq and Al-Qaeda → Alleged links between pre-invasion Iraq and Al-Qaeda? The vote is here . Thanks. ObsidianOrder 17:16, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hey. To let you know, this user is also subject of a RfC (I had nothing to do with that one). I also think this might be a stretch, but could this user be a sockpuppet of User:Islamist? Zscout370 21:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Howdy,
Jayjg, even though we disagree on some things, I respect you alot. I was wondering if you could take a look at Islamofascism for general wikiness. Hopefully we can get it to FAC soon. At the moment, various leftists/Islamists/Arabists are objecting left and right. The article seems pretty NPOV to me, but it always helps to get more people involved. Since your extensive experience with Israel leads me to beleive, that would bring good experience and edits to it.
Klonimus 04:16, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jay, thanks for your note. I've seen what you and other editors have been subjected to, and I sympathise. I can well understand that that would get to you. Our viewpoints might vary but I am right behind you on one score: there is absolutely no way you should have to put up with that vile shit from anyone. We are supposed to be colleagues working in a great endeavour, not combatants in whatever war those guys (guy?) think they are fighting. Grace Note 04:54, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jay, could you have a look at Talk:New_anti-Semitism#Highly_POV_paragraph_cut? I know that your views are much closer than mine (though probably not identical) to those of the person who inserted the material that I cut. Perhaps you could help frame some of this in an encyclopedic manner. Or perhaps you can suggest someone else who might work on this. Right now, I'm much to busy to do the heavy lifting on behalf of appropriately presenting a view with which I disagree completely. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:10, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
I think you will be interested in the outcome of this very convoluted stub. Guy Montag 14:28, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Dear Jay: Good Mo'ed to you and yours! I have asked for some expansion of the article about the Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace and User:MathKnight was kind enough to do so, but his style needs copy-editing please. Hope you can oblige. Thanks a lot. IZAK
In cas you missed it, you didn't sign your vote. Guettarda 17:26, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hey J, Can you check out the text at Karaite_Judaism#Nazarene_Karaites or do you know of someone who knows more about this stuff? It sounds strangely familiar (i.e., similar to some of the stuff that was being promoted a couple of months ago on Nazarene#Modern movements. Jag saméaj. Tomer TALK 09:10, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
Hey again again. I've started a little project at Wikipedia:Sandbox/Template:Judaism as you can see...please help out in any way you can, or tell me why I should just stop it. :-p Tomer TALK 09:57, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
Please consider changing the basis for your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pandeism from "original research" to "non-notable." I believe I have adduced sufficient referential evidence to show that this article was not "original research," but simply an exposition on a philosophy which, although real, lacks enough adherents/proponents to be notable enough for inclusion. I apologize for having overestimated the importance of this topic. It was, after all, one of my first posts, when I was new to Wikipedia and not yet familiar with the criteria for notability. -- 8^D BD2412gab 04:40, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
...Dunno. Is it someone's puppet? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:00, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what we can do other than protect the page. The last two days have been pretty busy for me, so I haven't had as much time for Wikipedia as I would like. --Viriditas | Talk 05:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Could I prevail on you to have a look at Talk:New_anti-Semitism#Lead_POV? It seems to me that Viriditas (and maybe a couple of others) have been taking this article in a polemical direction. When I've tried to discuss this with him, he and I seem to be talking at cross purposes. I feel like I'm engaging with someone who feels that he "has the Truth" about this controversial topic and that NPOV consists of the article expressing that Truth without qualification. Your opinion would likely be helpful, I know you were involved in this article earlier. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:47, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
It seems the vote at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Nehruvian-Stalinism resulted in quite some new editors for Wikipedia, typically with edits only at this vote. I've left some notes highlighting this fact. Is anything else to be done in such cases? --Pjacobi 06:46, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
Jayjg, I would like to commend you for so beautifully demonstrating that having a strong POV and making sure it's accurately represented in articles in a NPOV way is not mutually exclusive from good faith editing. The best articles are the collaboration of reasonable, articulate editors like you who represent various and opposing POVs while adhering to policy. I would challenge any editor with a strong POV to be able to produce a list like your User:Jayjg/Edits, evidence of your good faith efforts and adherence to policy even on behalf of opposing POVs. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 18:09, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
Why'd you rv your correction of User:Al-Andalus' edit to Mizrahi Jew? It's almost shabat here, so I don't have time to put in the Arab Jews mention in the article itself. Is there some way to set a reminder to do something, so I can remember to look at it sunday night or monday? Tomer TALK 19:39, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
Zero is being totally unreasonable. He is erasing relevent information in relation to the refugee status in the article. He doesnt give any valid reasons in talk, and is obstinate in every manner. I am interested in your opinion to the situation. If this is not resolved, I will have to use mediation or arbitration to resolve this.
Thanks,
Guy Montag 01:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
For your vote and very kind words in my RfA. And for all your encouragment, in general. Yours always, El_C 01:17, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
"conspiracy theory" in an article's title is very POV. zen master T 05:55, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I stand by everything that I have said, and do not appreciate your personal attack.
I tend to agree with you, but as I am a party to the dispute I don't think it is appropriate for me to do anything. Should I leave it to SV, or can you bring this up at the ArbCom? Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 13:23, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
What a mess! I wrote comments on the 9/11 and AIDS pages you called attention to. If you think anything I wrote on these two pages is relevant to another page/discussion (and has merit, of course), feel free to copy my remarks. Slrubenstein | Talk 16:50, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I only watched the rumours page before to keep outlandish material from a couple of the sections. I think I'll also keep an eye on the AIDS conspiracy theory page. Cool Hand Luke 17:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
uh...this guy is not enamored, he's obsessed. I'm normally a big-time inclusionist...but this guy is barely marginally noteworthy for an encyclopedia. I'm also not entirely comfortable with the fact that there are no source references given. I'm not as big a stickler on this as some others, as long as the information is independently verifiable, but <grind teeth> this guy has demonstrated a definite desire to inject jewish-catholic reconciliation into a number of articles, and a good part of it seems to be not entirely well-informed. I'll be back shortly, hopefully...IE is in the process of crashing on me... :-p Tomer TALK 21:23, May 2, 2005 (UTC)
The information regarding the term Hazzan which was added today, was received from a school of Cantorial Studies, and from practicing cantors who have been cantors for decades. Cantors, or "Reverend Cantors" as more notably used in Europe, are more than just singers. Along with Rabbis, Cantors are the Jewish clergy, and in the Conservative and Reform movements they are ordained ministers. This meeting was deemed so important, that the Israeli government was even involved in this meeting.
The Jewish Theological Seminary of America (conservative), The Belz School of Jewish Music (orthodox), Hebrew Union College (Reform) The American Seminary for Contemporary Judaism (multi-denominational) all train and grant Cantorial Diplomas thereby ordaining Cantors. The official title conveyed by most schools is Reverend Cantor. JTS grants the title "Hazzan," and "Cantorial Soloist."
A relatively new user, User:SmarterChild3, has nominated virtually all of the WP:BJAODN pages to WP:VFD. This user's brief edit history shows several instances of vandalism as well. I am certain these nominations are in bad faith. Can anything be done about this? Firebug 22:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jay, please review the article Middle East peace according to religion. Thank you. IZAK 03:38, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
And, they are sooooooo annoying.--Cberlet 20:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
It appears enough people are keeping an eye on it...I just sat here, paging through all the individual edits, and shook my head. I'd recommend a 24-hr block on 4.241.* or whatever that IP addy domain and sub are. Judging by anon's edit on the talk page there, I'm gonna go ahead and say attempts at reasoning w/ him/her would be an exercise in utter futility. Tomer TALK 23:39, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
Well, this user has decided to add his POV and add the Palestine flag without talking to us first. From checking his contributions, all he did is went to certain pages and add a slight pro-Arab POV. Most of his edits were reverted, and I will watch this user for a few days. Note, I also have seen a notice on his talk page that his username is offensive, since it combines spastic and swastika. Zscout370 (talk) 11:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jayyig, would you please stop removing the resources Beirut-Blog.de/Beirut-Diary in Lebanon´s country profile?! Even though the name is Beirut-Blog.de the German site is not a blog at all nor is the English site Beirut-Diary. Both are just names. They are asolute valuable sources of the so called "cedar revolution". You do find every major event covered there, including exlusive audio, photo and video material. One example: None of the big western mass media covered the case of Samir Geagea until today. Beirut-Blog.de / Beirut-Diary.com covered it two weeks ago in-depths. Another example: Where else on the web do you find the video coverage of every bombing that occured in March and April in Lebanon? And there is a more. So please put the links back, there is not good reason to remove them.
Best wishes Profesorarguile
Hi Jayyig, the author of the sites is a friend of mine. He is a freelancer from Germany. His name is Alexander Jenniches.
You are right, the "about" sections begins with "... this is my diary from the lebanese capital Beirut". That is close to a blog. The second sentence is: "Here you will find political news, coverage of the local life and just short entries you would expect in a diary". That looks like more the stuff you can make use of, doesn´t it?
So, if you can link his site to Wikipedia, please do it. Otherwhise, just leave it. I don´t think, he feels the need to appeare in such discussion. Best wishes Professoraguile
I would like to propose an edited template I have put together at: User:Goodoldpolonius2/israel. Your comments are appreciated. --Goodoldpolonius2 03:59, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Hey Jayjg, In reading the comments attached to some of the "keep" votes in this VfD, I'm beginning to suspect the some of the votes are being cast by sockpuppets. Know anyone w/ the time to look into it? Also, User:Klonimus made a charge of vote-meddling against User:Doc glasgow, but I'm having difficulty verifying what he's talking about. Tomer TALK 12:50, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
I see you've added some stuff to the Gary Krupp article. As the founder of some questionable organization, he is perhaps arguably notable...although until I hear of "Pave the Way Foundation" from source other than Wikipedia, I'll continue to consider Pave the Way Foundation as of doubtful relevance. That said, the article contains very little useful information, and is, in fact, comprised of a picture of dubious relevance, and text which is approximately 2/3 external links. It also seems to be yet another in a pattern of worthless articles by Merlin\Zor and his/her sock puppets. Tomer TALK 16:26, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
Have you discussed it with him? Has he responded? You might list him on Vandalism in Progress and/or WP:AN/I. RickK 19:01, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
By "delete" I assume you mean revert? Then, yes. RickK 19:09, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
I think I'd better take a breather on this. I'm ready to start spanking people. Take over for me, will ya? Tomer TALK 21:31, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I adjusted the tally to reflect your re-affirmed vote. As currently written, I think maybe it's a borderline case, but I'm in my exam period and have not had time to do further research. I still think that there are more significant references to be found for this term, but I respect your opinion as to the article in its current state. Cheers. -- BD2412 thimk 23:02, 2005 May 5 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up Hate group. It was on my 'to-do' list. That anon has been making a number of questionable contributions. Cheers, -Willmcw 17:14, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Yet another anon is adding some questionable information to the Lost Ten Tribes. Might wanna check it out. Have a good shabat. -t Tomer TALK 18:01, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Howdy,
I've had my daily dosage of Yuber's edits to Jizyah for the day. Would you care to have a look and see what if anything can be pulled out of this mess.
Klonimus 23:52, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
El_C has at least contributed some new material, but all of it is is attempting to blow smoke, on the fact that Jizyah is established by the Koran, and has always been a monetary tax. That issue has been settled to the point of being common knowledge by the actions of the early caliph's, Mohammed himself, and the historical record.
The part of discriminatory taxation is not original research. All modern Human rights convention's and almost all modern consitutions would prohibit taxation on the basis of religion or sex. All the meterial in the critcism section, is based on the works of Bat Ye'or and Ibn Warraq.
A quick little test of reverts is if 1697 is mentioned in the section on the Mogul empire. Yubers reverts keep clobbering little things like that. Personally I think the Islamists are uncomfortable with Jizyah, since it shows Islam in a negative light.
Klonimus 01:34, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Good edits, Jay. I am especially impressed how quickly you were able to track down sources for the Criticism section and npov it therefrom. El_C 08:56, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Nobs Subscribed and sworn before me on this 12 May in the Year of our Lord 2005 at 20:40 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg, just wondering whether you agree with the readdition just now of the highly controversial ambulance photo to the UNRWA article. [12] As you may recall, there was an extensive discussion about it on the talk page last summer and the photo was eventually removed. I am all for images in articles, but this one seems unencyclopedic at best. I would be interested in your opinion. -- Viajero 15:07, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jay, take a look at this new addition Congregation Tiferes Yisroel, I am not sure every obscure shtiebel on this planet is deserving of its own article. It may contravene Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a free host or webspace provider, and I think it's more of a Wikipedia:Vanity page, what do you think? (I am also asking User:Jfdwolff.) Thanks. IZAK 05:16, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi again Jay, please see article about a Rabbi Zvi Block submitted by a new user. Is every last rabbi on Earth going to get their own Wikipedia article? Is this one "notable" enough in your opinion? Your views please. Thanks. IZAK 05:44, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Thought you may want to peruse Ibbur. IZAK 06:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Care to check out the brewing revert war on Jesus concerning BC/AD -- and the stubborn comments by Arcturus and Rangerdude on Talk:Jesus? I think your input would be valuable. Slrubenstein | Talk 19:59, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I just finished editing User:Fivetree's new entry about Lithuanian School of Kabbalah, but I do not know what to make of it really, and I cannot help but wonder if it really can be placed in Category:Orthodox Judaism. Is it too much self-promotion? What do you think? IZAK 05:07, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Please see the NZNF discussion page for an official notice from the New Zealand National Front in regards to the Images marked for deletion.
By the way, I'm not in the photograph. (Note: This message was left by IP User:203.109.147.40)
Howdy
May I ask you to reconsidder your vote on Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism to Keep or Merge with Saudi Arabia
Arabs and anti-Semitism, and Islam and anti-Semitism are broad articles. Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism is a specific article about a specific country with a long history state sponsored and condoned anti-Semetism. Everything in Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism is cited and verifiable and the article has plenty possibilites for expansion and organic growth. Klonimus 04:57, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
I've been doing some impostor hunting lately, seeing as how we've had a rash of them lately and all, and you got the following hits: JAYJg (talk · contribs), JAYjG (talk · contribs), JAYjg (talk · contribs), JAyjg (talk · contribs), JaYJg (talk · contribs), JaYjG (talk · contribs), JaYjg (talk · contribs), JayJG (talk · contribs), JayJg (talk · contribs), JayjG (talk · contribs). Of course, this may be nothing, but I thought I would let you know. – ClockworkSoul 05:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Copyright problems#Fair use claims needing a second opinion see my entry at bottom; molloy. Gzuckier 17:36, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I don't know what's going on anymore on the VfD for the reverend cantor kepecs. The sockpuppet overload is insane. I'm seriously thinking about asking some overlords to look into possibly banning a couple of IP addys. Tomer TALK 17:57, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
Considering your history, the comments on this page, the ADL discussion page (good for a laugh) and things I've heard about you from other Wiki admins, I don't think you should be making un-informed edits to the NZNF article. Your edits are obviously anti-NF POV, and don't reflect well on Wikipedia. - Molloy
I claim the above statement, check edit history. - Molloy
Could you look into User:EricI234 for me. I thought I understood the change username policy, but apperently I have no clue. Thanks. El_C 12:15, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
To unblock the IP but not the username, wait until the user next tries to edit a page, and something like #1234 was blocked because they share an IP with OldUserName will appear at Special:Ipblocklist. Click "unblock" next to that number. Then the user can log in under their new name.
and I thought it would be simpler for the user to change their name rather than be confused in being blocked – I suppose that could be explained to him/her though; at the time I just thought changing a user name is very simple (I confused that with the sig on special:pref.). Say, while I'm asking stupid questions, what is the procedure for changing a username? El_C 12:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)Hey, if you noticed on the NZNF, Malloy also attacked FightDemBack, since Malloy stated "You seem to have the IQ of a small child" to him. Zscout370 (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
thanks for the move and suggestions - yah I'll add the sources list once it is completed, I do have a source list on APA format, but as I'm still condensing info and putting it into relatively short paragraphs - I'm still working on the list.
thanks! ps - any tips for how to format the sourcing in this place? there seems to be no consensis
BlindingCranium 18:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
The sources would most likely be references because what I wrote was more of a synthesis of information than independent sources... I could make footnotes, but that may be more complicated.
Sorry but I can't find the footnote tool! Can you give me a link?
19:09, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
These images have been hosted there for over a year without controversy. Yesterday, a user has marked them for deletion. As I am not fully versed in all wiki policies, could you find out what is going on if you have the time? The user in question is Burgundavia.
Thanks,
Guy Montag 22:09, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Can I convince you to look at and comment on this: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Iranian physics news - (It's a weblog masquerading as a scientific web site.) - Tεxτurε 22:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Please stop being abusive and try engaging in constructive article editing --Dogtag 02:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Would you care to explain yourself? Your threats are entirely obnoxious and accusations unfounded. I suggest an RFC, mediation, arbitration or whatever you wish. We need an otside observer to review your conduct. --Dogtag 02:25, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Is that your defense for threatening and obnoxious behavior? That I know something about Wikipedia policies? You will need more evidence than that to explain your ugly behavior. Instead of threatening users with bans for disagreeing with you, why don't you use the Talk page on Zionism to explain why you insist on putting typos and original research into the article? --Dogtag 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Please review the "Biblical" article Abif. Thanks. IZAK 05:31, 13 May 2005 (UTC)