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Hey, i went to el colegio also. In the Ponce, Puerto Rico page I think it's better to leave the info box on top of the picture, what do you think? Cjrs 79 02:48, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

Great work with the info boxes on the PR municipalities. Could you follow the guidelines for the lat/long coordinates detailed on [[1]]. There is some pretty cool stuff beign done arround this.

I really liked the article. I hope that you like the flag and the Barnstar Award on your user page. Keep up the good work! I wish you the best of luck with your Masters. You know, I have a nephew named Joel in P.R. Your wiki friend Tony the Marine 08:56, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Joel, I'm going to write an article on the Puerto Rican immigration to Hawaii. I would like to know if you would be interested in doing an article on the "cuatro". Since the instrument is commonly used by the Hawaiian-Boricuas. If it turns out anything like the coqui article, it will be great. Tony the Marine 17:42, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

I need your help. It seems that someone wants to delete my article on Carlos Lozada, one of four Puerto Ricans to have been awarded the Medal of Honor. You can help fight this injustice by voting against deletion here: VfD. Please participate. Your friend Tony the Marine 05:26, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

...and therefore I give you a Barnstar of Diligence for countless edits devoted to Puerto Rico, and other topics on Wikipedia. D. J. Bracey (talk) 21:20, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Como estas mi amigo? Thank you for letting me know that you've been working on the Puerto Rico article. You've done an excellent job. I see that you want to bring the article up to featured status. Since you asked for my sugestions, I will proceed. The "inline references" have to be invisible to the reader, so instead of "Ref | Act 1950" in between the brackets, you must change it to "inote | ref: Act 1950" in between the brackets. I would also add a brief paragraph from the Jayuya Uprising article before the Oscar Collazo insident in Washington, D.C.. The culture section needs to be worked on. Since culture is important to the definition of a nation I think that it is important to write briefly about our music, literature and art. One more sugestion is to include information about our infrastructure. The type of arquitecture and bridges in the island and transportation, information about our airports, ship ports, la lancha amd system of public transportation. It really looks good and I'm proud of you for taking up this task. Let me know what you think and remember I'm there for you. Tony the Marine 05:06, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

I realize that there were strong feelings on both sides with respect to the outcome of the AfD for this article, now located at Alternative theories regarding Hurricane Katrina. I would like to assure those who expressed concerns about the content, tone, and potential for degradation of this article that I intend for it to continue to exist only as long as is necessary to draw the contributions of fringe theorists away from the more substantial Hurricane Katrina articles. Once interest in this topic dies down, I'll quietly trim and merge this information into the appropriate general-topic articles. In the interim, I will carefully watch this page to prevent it from being abused, and I will continue to work towards making this article NPOV, properly sourced, and useful to those seeking an accurate record of the hysterics that so often follows catastrophe. Cheers. -- BD2412 ^talk 00:57, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Why do you say Puerto Rican is a race LOL IT is not a race?

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Puerto Rico page as living in or being associated with Puerto Rico. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Puerto Rico for instructions.--Rmky87 02:10, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

O.K. Joelr31, so you don't believe in Santa, but I still want to wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world and the best new year ever. Your friend, Tony the Marine 04:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Que huevo puse y que "Felix Navidad" en vez de "Feliz Navidad"! I'm gald to hear from you and I want you to know that I believe that what you posted in the PR discussion page was the best thing yet! Some people complicate their lives over simple matters. I wanted to ask you something since you are an educator and you could instruct me. I haven't been to Puerto Rico in 16 years so, is it true that English and Spanish are both official languages by law? I mean I believe that it is to the benefit of everyone to be bilingual. My children are bilingual and we're teaching my grandaughters Spanish. Isn't ironic that even though there is an "English Only" movement in the states, the federal government and the majority of the states such as Arizona, New Mexico, etc. have refused to approve such a motion? Anyway que Dios te bendiga, a tu familia y a tu estudiantes. Tu Amigo, Tony the Marine 00:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I uploaded an image of Ari Meyers within the the accordance established by Wikipedia (source and licence) and someone put it up for deletion because "it is unencyclopedic". The image is of good taste and just because it is a wallpaper image I don't think it should be deleted. Please view and if you can, express your opinion. Images and media for deletion/2005 December 24 Thank you, Tony the Marine 03:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Hola Joel. How's it going? I wanted to invite you to become a member of the new project about our pais. If you want to, just click there and list your name where it has the list of writers on the project. As you can see, the page is poorly formatted. I don't know how to build a country-box, but we'll work on it :)

I hope I can see your name there soon! Thanks and God bless you!

Your wikifriend, Antonio U Martin

Hey Joel:Gracias for joining! I made the Juan Manuel Lebron article today. I hope you enjoy it. I also want to invite you to collaborate on Wikipedia:WikiProject Argentina and Wikipedia:WikiProject Cuba, both of which I am a participant. It's very interesting in my opinion to learn about all our Latino countries. We have a wealth of talent put together! Well, once again, Gracias y God bless you! Your wiki-amigo, Antonio De Caguas, Papa! Martin

Joelito, so far, you and I are the most committed helpers to the Puerto Rican WikiProject. I want to thank you so much for the template, and of course, I like it, it's pretty cool!

Thanks and God bless you! Let's keep on the hard work!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Roquero, Cocolo, Rapero y Regatonero Martin

Hey Amigo, I was thinking of adding a Did You Know? section to the article Puerto Rico. In that section we could post little known interesting facts about our island and our people. It would be serve as an educational tool that would motivate others to read about our island. An example of what I plan is this:

Did You Know?

1. That the first shot fired by the United States in World Wae I was in Puerto Rico and not in Europe? It was fired by Lt. Teofilo Marxuach.

1. That the first opera in history to be recorded was recorded by tenor Antonio Paoli?

1. That Puerto Rico once had a President? His name was Francisco Ramirez Medina.

I want to consult with you and my other Boricua Panas. I would like to receive any input. Tu Amigo Tony the Marine 19:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• I agree with you about setting up parameters. I received this message from one of our brothers: I think calling it Did You Know? sounds better than "Trivia." Trivia can be any random fact, like that PR has 78 municipalities. Did You Know suggests interesting facts. Smylere Snape 22:31, 4 February 2006 (UTC). I believe then that it should be stated as: "Did You Know? - These are interesting but, little known facts about Puerto Rico and its people". I will need your help in overseeing the section. Let me know what you think. Tony the Marine 01:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

(P.S. Your "See also Template" is great)

• • I agree, great idea! Tony the Marine 16:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Joelito - it's not compulsory to go through the debating process at WP:WSS/P, but it does help if things go through that page first. Since it's the stub sorting wikiproject that does most of the sorting of stubs into different categories, we like to at least know what stub types are likely to be out there, and also like to make sure they're all named and formed consistency so that it's easier to work out what everything's called. Also, since the categories are most sueful to editors and tend to have a "transient" population 9things get stubbed,, then later get unstubbed gain then the articles are improved), we like to make sure that the categories will stay large enough that they won't be emptied by one editor in a day, so set a minimum threshold number of stubs on what's a good new category to have. In the case of PR's bio stubs, although there aren't many articles in there at the moment, it seems very likely that there will be enough stubs for it to be a reasonable category to use. And yes, you named it and formatted it in line with the other categries, which is good. The proposal business is a guideline to stop us having some silly small categories or categories that cut across the hierarchy of categories that currently exists. Grutness...wha? 07:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Here goes another anon who has no knowlege of how Wiki works and has posted a good article for deletion. It's about Norma Candal, please vote here: [[2]] and help fight this injustice. Thank you Tony the Marine 04:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Amigo, I totally agree with you. I'll move the page and then redirect the other, in a second. Tell me how it looks after it done. Tony the Marine 17:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I also wrote about the caciques Arasibo, Jumacao and Hayuya.

You know what really bothers me sometimes? When people who have absolutely no knowledge of Puerto Rico or it's people start to edit those articles. For example, the Military history of Puerto Rico was voted a feature article and it even appeared in the Main Page. Then a year later you get some dumbnut that comes with something like this:

== Featured Article? ==

The article is sadly not one of the best Featured articles out there, and a prime subject for WP:FARC. I'm going to try to improve this article out some in the next few days. Something that could be done is by expanding the lead as it is currently too short. Also needs a copyedit. Thanks --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 06:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

You see why we Boricuas must stand together and defend what is right? I'm glad to have befriended you and the others who stand up for what is right. Tu Amigo, Tony the Marine 18:01, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

It is a great article. I added an image of thebird. I hope you like it. Tu Amigo, Tony the Marine 05:26, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

dbenbenn | talk 10:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Puerto Rican Spindalis, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 05:53, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• Mi Hermano, I'm also very happy for you. I told that it was a great article. Te lo dije! You are very talented, now don't forget to add the info in the "Did you Know?-Puerto Rico". Que pases un buen día amigo, Tony the Marine 22:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Elfin-woods Warbler, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 12:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I like the tasks template on the Boricua WikiProject page. Mind if I copy it for our Chicano project?--Rockero420 20:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Mi Amigo, I just got home and looked over your work on the Wikiproject and the Portal. What can I say? Your work is excellent, you have demonstrated beyond a doubt your love for the island and education with your work. If I didn't say it before I'll say it now, I feel very honored and privileged to have befriended you. We share the same passion of presenting the truth and only the truth about our island and its people. Que carajo le pasa al Algrs ese? I don't know what he's trying to proof. Tu Amigo, Tony the Marine 01:35, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Rather than AfD this I've redirected it Phil Graham to save everyone the time and trouble. --Alf ^melmac 00:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your note on the talk page--I agree with Alf. I was the one who deleted the earlier version of the same vanity bio (created by SmartWiz1982 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)). Thanks for your help! Antandrus (talk) 00:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I was just curious about the inclusion of the manatee - I always thought it was the same species from Florida to Guyana. Do you have a source for a separate PR species? (BTW - I didn't realise you were at RUM). Guettarda 19:15, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't what the outcome will be, but I posted all the DYK in the Wiki Puerto Rico Project just in case. By doing this it becomes a section of the project and nobody can complain and we can figure out what to do later. Tony the Marine 05:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

An organized consensus in regard to the Puerto Rican Spindalis has been placed at [3]. Please express your opinion. Tony the Marine 14:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Amigo Thanks for the compliment, you were right about the Cat. I fixed it. Oh yeah, that's my e-mail above in case you need it sometime. You can erase it after you have it down. Tony the Marine 20:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the messgae, but given the state of my Spanish and my utter ignorance of accentuation, I think I will sit this one out ;) Guettarda 23:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Here's a suggestion: why not expand the colab a little, and make it to format all the Spanish used in PR articles? Like using standard Spanish accentuation, spelling, and punctuation any time the language is used in articles for proper nouns, organization titles, and quotations. And these should always be translated into English (well, not the proper nouns). And I think wiki style is to italicize words in foreign languages, so we might want to include that. Also, what would you recommend to find out what people prefer to use? LCSH? Know any other place? And finally, when proposing the policy, it may help to mention that Hispanic Americans are more likely to have the choice as to whether to use English or Spanish grammar. Just a thought.--Rockero420 00:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll help out w/ this colab. Gotta run now--I'll amend the page when I get back.--Rockero420 01:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey Joelito: Ive been trying to get in contact with you since last night but I had trouble because even as an administrator Im the only administrator that gets blocked occasionally lol!!

I want to congratulate you on an outstanding job!! Thank you for working for Puerto Rico so much! God bless you!

Your wikifriend Antonio Daddy Boricua Martin

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) and acute accent. :) —Joseph | Talk 08:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Ese es mi punto. No creo apropiado que se le instruya a los contribuidores a utilizar acentos o diéresis cuando dicha postura tiene consideraciones técnicas (como el search engine optimization). Lo que generalmente hacen los contribuidores es nombrar el articulo sin acentos ni diéresis, mientras que estos se utilizan apropiadamente en el contexto del articulo. Te recomiendo que hagas lo mismo, no es tan sencillo como parece. —Joseph | Talk 23:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Joelito! I'm glad you like it! It's definitely my most ambitious project, y no ha sido fácil, aunque algunos escritores me han ayudado mucho. I've wanted to write something like it for months, though it seemed insurmountable. Si encuentra algo que puede corregir o mejorar, feel free to pitch in or offer comments on the talk page. ¡Siempre puedo usar ayuda! — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to leave you a quick note for great work you did on the Daddy Yankee page by adding cover art for all his albums and moving his discography to the gallery. Miguelfp1 15:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the typo. De vez en cuando pongo un "huevo". Tu Amigo. Tony the Marine 21:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it was reverting to an rapid vandalised revert there :) -- Tawker 00:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I have it on my watchlist and consider it sprotected, I can't do it but I just gave a link to someone who will -- Tawker 00:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Sprotect is on and I've reverted the vandalism, sorry it took so long I was hair pulling someone to do it :) -- Tawker 00:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, we're blocking all of the IP's who vandalised the page multiple times as well as proxyscanning them. Do you have a link to the neopets board page, it asks for a username and password -- Tawker 00:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Vaya mi Pana, I've given the final touches to my article. I would like you to take a look at it now and give me your honest opinion. Tony the Marine 19:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I did the things you recommended. My next project will be the "Real Cedula" (Royal Decree of Graces) and then I think I'll follow it with the "French immigration to Puerto Rico". You know what I was thinking, why don't you work with the information about Puerto Rican birds and develope a featured article? That's what I did, after writting a bunch of mini-articles of Puerto Rican military men, I came up with the "Military history of Puerto Rico". Tony the Marine 01:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Yep, that was vandalism, thanks for catching it for me :) -- Tawker 02:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with what your saying and arguing about the article. I'm actually considering putting a 'merge' talk to all the articles I think should be toghether. On the other hand those people are stubburn as hell. What do you think? Should I go ahead? I'm thinking yes, but I do not think I have the time to do everything I want with those articles (for instance the one on blitzball sucks). Any ideas?Nnfolz 06:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I took a look at those two articles on Puerto Rican birds. I'd actually already read the Elfin-woods Warbler article from its days on DYK. I thought it was a great choice for nomination. I made a few small changes, but the content looked great. Just a note on usage of italics. Genus names should be capitalized, species in lowercase and these two are italicized. The term spp. is technically not supposed to be italicized, but you'll see it that way on occassion. Orders, families, etc. are not italicized. Overall, great work. --Aranae 01:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

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Off course I don't mind. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 23:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Gracias mi amigo, por el Bizcocho. I loved the cake "Red" Marine Corps color, yeah! Well anyway I'm getting too old, pero que carajo, pa'lante. Tu amigo Tony the Marine 02:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• I just got your message. My Birthday? It was good, tranquilo with the family. We are a very close knit family and we went out to eat, thanks for asking. I looked at the "History of Puerto Rico" and it's looking real good. Before you submit it to peer review, remember to add "inote" references. It you want to see an example of what I mean, take a look at the Military History of Puerto Rico. "Click" edit and you will notice at the end of the paragraphs some "inote" references. Your article about Fray Iñigo Abbad y Lasierra is really good, nice map. As you know I've been working hard on the German and French immigration articles and the Royal Decree of Graces of 1815. I wanted to checkout something with you, it is my understanding that the drowning of Diego Salcedo, was planned by both Agüeybana II and Urayoán and that Agüeybana II reported the results to his brother Agüeybana, who in turn ordered the Taino revolt. I'm just mentioning this because I didn't this mentioned in the "History of Puerto Rico". Tell me what you think, Tu Amigo Tony the Marine 05:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey compadre, since you're one of my best friends here, I'm going to give you a "sneak preview" of the article I'm working on. See here: Sneak Preview. Tu Amigo, Tony the Marine 00:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

• Compadre, great table, go ahead and make the change. The only modification I made was the Taino symbols. I want to keep them in the "right" side of the article because I think if the article started between two images it maybe too much of a distraction. Another thing, I'm going to get in touch with our other compadres here to see if we can decide who should be taken out of the List of Puerto Ricans, I think that the singers and entertainment sections are too long and that not everyone deserves to be there. Let me know what you think, Tony the Marine 15:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I know you need articles on the Culture of Puerto Rico, and the Puerto Rican Woodpecker. I can do the research and create those articles for you. Andylandandrew

Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I think that'll I'll work on the migration to N.Y. Thanks for the title of "Puerto Rican immigration expert", sounds cool! Anyway, you can count on me, I'm with you. I believe that you're taking the "History of Puerto Rico" in the right direction. I think that some of the references and notes can be used as "inotes". There is one thing that I want to check with you. I'm not sure but I believe that Luis Llorens Torres was a member of the "Puerto Rico Federal Party" and that the party defended the ideal of independence for the island. He became a member of the legislature when he was named to the Camara of Delegates from 1908 to 1910. A confussion may arise because the Puerto Rican Independist Party was founded in 1946. Check it out and let me know. Tony the Marine 19:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

• Holy smokes you're right! The only difference that I found was that he was first a member of the Union Party for which he was elected in 1908 member of the camara representing Ponce and then he founded the Idependence Party. I made the changes to his bio. I believe that you would make a great administrator. Would you have any objections to my nominating you? Tony the Marine 22:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

• • O.K., I"ll give you a month and then I'll do the honors. I want to be your "padrino" here. Tony the Marine 01:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I want the world to know that I, "Tony the Marine" dedicate my new article "Puerto Rican migration to New York" to my friend Joel, because he suggested it and because of him I worked my butt off writing it (smile).' Tony the Marine 04:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Great Template, I made a minor change because I wanted to centralize it like your other tables. I hope that you don't mind. Tu Amigo Tony the Marine 19:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

You know, you're right about the dates, thanks. I fixed them. Don't worry about the infobox, it is still navigational box that has all the migration articles linked. The only difference is that you can position it wherever you like in the pages. The migration article is a good one. Tony the Marine 22:13, 21 March 2006 (UTC)