Question from Kimlashrly on Help:Getting started (19:32, 19 January 2024)[edit]

Hey --Kimlashrly (talk) 19:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kimlashrly, hey to you too. ~Kvng (talk) 14:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Morag Komendo- Borowski (00:30, 21 January 2024)[edit]

I wish to ad to the Wikipedia page of Antoni Komendo-Borowski. --Morag Komendo- Borowski (talk) 00:30, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note: I'm not Kvng.
I'm assuming you are writing about yourself? See WP:AUTOBIO and WP:BIO. TL;DR: (1) don't write about yourself on Wikipedia (2) the subject needs to satisfy certain criteria that establish notability since only notable subjects warrant its own article. PetraMagna (talk) 05:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Kris-lyn, 87 on Virtual private network (04:50, 21 January 2024)[edit]

I do not know what this means. --Kris-lyn, 87 (talk) 04:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kris-lyn, 87, what about it is unclear? ~Kvng (talk) 14:52, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from AndrewJPatrick (18:22, 22 January 2024)[edit]

Hello! I just recently submitted my first Wikipedia entry last week and was wondering about how the process for getting it reviewed/edited and then published goes. Will I get notified when someone is working on it? I think I read it can take up to 3 weeks to go through that process. Thanks! --AndrewJPatrick (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@AndrewJPatrick, I assume we're talking about Draft:Canadian Climate Institute. This has not been submitted yet. If you submit it in this state it is likely to be quickly declined. You need to add at least two or threeWP:INDEPENDENT and WP:RELIABLE sources that establish notability for the organization. Here is some information about citations. Also be aware that our notability requirements for organizations are particularly demanding.
I notice that you've added a WP:COI declaration to your user page. If this declaration is with respect to Canadian Climate Institute, that's going to make getting this draft accepted even more difficult.
I realize haven't answered all of your questions but I can explain more as we get the draft is in better shape. ~Kvng (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks - appreciate this feedback! I've updated the draft with a number of citations to address the notability requirements. Happy to adjust further if needed. AndrewJPatrick (talk) 18:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AndrewJPatrick, that's a big improvement but I'm afraid it's not a particularly strong notability case. The first ref is pretty good but some would not see it as in-depth coverage; we learn little about the organization here. Coverage in the second could be considered a passing mention. I did not find any occurrences of "Canadian Climate Institute" in the other sources. The climateinstitute.ca source is not WP:INDEPENDENT so doesn't help the case for notability but I assume it may be useful for verification. ~Kvng (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kind Request for Support[edit]

Hi @Kvng, I am part of the OpenVINO development team and I would love to fix the OpenVINO article. I'm not doing it as part of my work, I just hate seeing such outdated info on the tool. Being aware of Wikipedia COI rules, I'd like to consult someone more knowledgeable to make sure I do it by the book. I've noticed you were one of the first editors of the article and seem to be a very experienced Wikipedia moderator. Would you be willing to help me with the topic?

The article is very outdated and does more harm than good at this point. I'd like to update it, or rewrite, really, and later add periodic updates for the most relevant info, e.g. current version and documentation URL (it's going to be released monthly now). What do you think would be the best course of action here? I would really appreciate your support.

Best Regards WriteMeEditMe (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WriteMeEditMe, happy to help. Rewrites are overrated and more work for all of us. Let's make incremental changes. I've put OpenVINO back on my watchlist. If you are comfortable editing, I'd prefer you make the edits and I review them. The by-the-book approach would be for you to post the exact proposed changes on the article's talk page (I see you've already outlined a proposal at Talk:OpenVINO#Some_suggestions_for_a_content_refresh). Since none of this looks potentially controversial, I am comfortable with you making these sorts of changes directly to the article. I will review them and revert within a week if I see any issues. ~Kvng (talk) 16:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh my, thank you! I did not expect such a quick reply. That is perfect! I'll make the first update this week, focusing on the info box and the introductory text. Thank you! WriteMeEditMe (talk) 09:59, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The first edit is in place. I hope it is correct in both content and format. It feels pretty good, updating an article. I'm looking forward to learning more about the process and addressing some non-related articles as well. WriteMeEditMe (talk) 18:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@WriteMeEditMe, you've significantly changed the list of supported model formats. I assume this is an update but changing unsourced information without adding a source isn't clearly productive. I've added a request there for a source that could help readers verify this list. ~Kvng (talk) 19:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you so much, @Kvng! I've pushed another update. I removed some misinformation and replaced the intro. Following your advice, I also made sure to include more citations. In the future, I would like to expand on two concepts mentioned in the intro - scalability and performance, because without context they seem to be an opinion rather than tangible features. I hope to target scalability in a section on devices, which I hope will be the next update (the runtime can select the best device available when scaling from one device to a different setup). Importantly! Would you like to move this thread to the OpenVINO talk page? This way I would not clutter your page with these update descriptions. Thanks again for guidance. Have a great day, WriteMeEditMe (talk) 21:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Red February 2024[edit]

Women in Red | February 2024, Volume 10, Issue 2, Numbers 293, 294, 297, 298


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U.S. Mountain West Online Meeting[edit]

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table display[edit]

Regarding this comment: I believe I have addressed the question about whether or not tables would be helpful to describe the data layout. I will add, though, that I agree that using tables to draw diagrams is an issue, which is why I have spent time discussing how to format the tables to make them accessible. isaacl (talk) 00:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Isaacl Sorry I missed that. Was it Tables are in fact commonly used in format specifications to describe how the bits and bytes are laid out? Do you think these sorts of tables should be removed pending development of a more accessible means of rendering them? ~Kvng (talk) 00:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's one, among others. Since the tables have been removed already, personally I favour seeing what consensus can be found before changing the article again. I realize, though, that others may prefer a different approach. isaacl (talk) 00:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Monty Rajkumar (07:42, 6 February 2024)[edit]

I want to add Tai Kassay (Meitei) in the group of Tai in Northeast India in Tai Peoples Wikipedia. Please kindly guide. Thanks ! --Monty Rajkumar (talk) 07:42, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Monty Rajkumar, are you looking to create a new article? ~Kvng (talk) 13:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I want to re-insert Tai Meitei (Kassay) in Tai Peoples Wikipedia. In 2019 I remember Meitei was mentioned as one of the Tai group of Northeast India and it was removed for no reason without any explanation. Thanks Monty Rajkumar (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Monty Rajkumar, sure, sometimes things get removed for no reason. Sometimes there's a reason, even a good reason but it is not stated. I'd like to look at the article history before advising further. Do you know the date when this was removed? Also is Tai Kassay (Meitei) or Tai Meitei (Kassay) an individual or a name for a subgroup? Why have you given me two different names and what does the parenthetical mean? ~Kvng (talk) 12:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the reply really appreciate it. This is the link of Tai Peoples Wikipedia which existed before it was removed. https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:AP:79773b87-df5c-4afb-bcfa-1501911a7f00
I am inexperienced in editing so I really don’t know exactly when but it was removed after November 2019 as I had taken printout and still have the hard copy where Meitei is mentioned as one of the Tai Peoples of Northeast India Southwestern Tai Northern Branch.
Meitei is an ethnic of Manipur and Tai of Myanmar and Northeast India called it Kassay so it’s Tai Meitei (Kassay). Meitei has population of more than 1.5 million in Manipur State of India. I had given two as it can be written both ways Tai Meitei (Kassay) or Tai Kassay (Meitei) but I feel first one is more appropriate to be addressed. This is the link of the latest report I submitted to Dr. Sai San Aik of Tai History Researchers Group, Myanmar. You will get all the required information on Tai Meitei (Kassay).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-qaJSxPXchDCWhxFgk_W9KyzZbqDCkSm/view?usp=drivesdk
Thanks !
Regards !
Maheshsana Rajkumar (Monty Rajkumar) Monty Rajkumar (talk) 14:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Monty Rajkumar, is this the removal you object to? I notice you've been trying to get something added and these additions have been reverted by two different editors who have given reasons. Do you understand what they're asking for? ~Kvng (talk) 16:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If addition is a problem then please revert to the same Tai Peoples Wikipedia which I had shared the link in my previous reply where only Meitei is mentioned as one of the Tai group of Northeast India. Please kindly do the needful. Thanks ! Monty Rajkumar (talk) 06:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Monty Rajkumar, sorry, once some light has been shined on an issue with content, we can't take it back into the darkness. ~Kvng (talk) 14:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I still don’t know the reasons and don’t understand why it’s been removed. Its proved beyond doubt Meitei ethnic of Manipur are Tai group of Northeast India from all the historical account and we have surnames of Meitei people of Manipur in local text written in Bengali script with list of surnames with Shan and Thai origin.
pls find way to resolve this issue and I am hopeful with our communication something positive should come out. You have mentioned addition which I have been trying to add that is Tai Meitei (Kassay) or Tai Kassay (Meitei) which work both the ways. If that is an issue then please write only Tai Meitei that resolve the issue for good without mention of word Kassay. Thanks !
Regards! Monty Rajkumar (talk) 00:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The editors who have removed this have requested sources. The sources you have provided have been from your own knowledge and research. We want to refer to something published in a reliable source. I'm still having a hard time understanding the relationship between Tai, Meitei and Kassay so I don't know how to suggest where to look for a source. ~Kvng (talk) 03:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes from my 5 years of research I established Meitei as one of Tai people of Northeast India and Tai Peoples Wikipedia was also one of the sources and many books written by western scholars, Tai scholars had already established Meitei as Tai/Shan people. The report on Tai Kassay (Meitei) which I had provided link in previous emails please go through the report and you will find a letter written by Dr. Sai San Aik of Tai History Researchers Group, Myanmar writing letter to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in August 2023 on the protection of Tai Kassay (Meitei) that letter you will find in the appendix section of the report. He is the main authority in Myanmar on Tai History and his mobile number is also provided the editors can personally contact him and enquire.
I have already mentioned Tai Meitei is an ethnic group of Manipur State Northeast India and Tai people of Myanmar writes Meitei as Kassay an ancient name. If you read the same report i submitted to Dr. Sai San Aik you will get to know about Meitei and Kassay. I also want to know the credentials of the Editors are they author, researcher on Tai? I am ready to submit any information on Tai Meitei if the editors want. Thanks !
Regards ! Monty Rajkumar (talk) 04:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Monty Rajkumar, please read WP:RS. We need something published with editorial control such as a book, newspaper or magazine. The report/letter you provided does not appear to qualify. Your own research also does not qualify, see WP:OR. Wikipedia prefers WP:SECONDARY sources as these tend to provide a neutral point of view. ~Kvng (talk) 13:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is the book joint authored by me and L. Memo Singh and second chapter of our book is on Meitei Tai origin. The link below is of our book The Political Monument:Footfalls of Manipuri History catalogued in American Library of Congress, Asian Reading Room, Washington DC. https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchCode=LCCN&searchArg=2020340687&searchType=1&permalink=y
If you type in Google search Maheshsana Rajkumar articles you will find my articles on Tai Meitei. I am a columnist too and if you give me an email address I can mail the articles published in the Manipuri English dailies. Thanks Monty Rajkumar (talk) 14:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, including a book or column citation with your addition is what the editors are looking for. However, the fact that these sources are authored by you creates a WP:COI issue. You must have based the material in your book on other sources. Can we cite those instead? ~Kvng (talk) 14:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have based my account on Tai Meitei from these sources cited from the following authors below:
Tun, Sai Aung. 2001. ‘The Tai Ethnic Migration and Settlement in Myanmar’, Myanmar Historical Research Journal No. (7), June, 2001.
Tai peoples, (2020). Retrieved June 20, 2020, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_peoples
Scott, J. George & Hardiman, J.P. 1900. Gazetteer of Upper Burma and the Shan States. Rangoon: The Superintendent, Government Printing, Burma. Part I, Vol. 1, Rangoon.
Hannay, Maj. Simon Fraser. 1847. Sketch of the Singphos, or the Kakhyens of Burmah: The position of This Tribe as regards Baumo, and the Inland Trade of the Valley of the Irrawaddy with Yunnan and their Connection with the North-Eastern Frontier of Assam. Calcutta: W. Ridsdale, Military Orphan Press.
Elias, Ney. 1876. Introductory Sketch of the History of the Shans in Upper Burma and Western Yunnan. Calcutta: The Foreign Department Press.
Harvey, G.E. 1925. History of Burma from the Earliest Times to 10 March 1824: The Beginning of the English Conquest. London: Longmans, Green and Co.
Parker, Edward Harper. 1893. Burma with Special Reference to Her Relations with China. Rangoon: Rangon Gazettee Press.
Mangrai, Sai Saimong. 1965. The Shan States and the British Annexation. Ithaca, New York: Cornell University. Monty Rajkumar (talk) 16:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Obviously the Wikipedia reference would be WP:CIRCULAR. But go ahead and try adding the mention to the Tai peoples article again and include one or two of those other references this time. See WP:CITE for instructions on including sources. ~Kvng (talk) 17:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you so much I have added Tai Meitei with two sources provided. I hope it will finally work. Really appreciate your kind initiative. Monty Rajkumar (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, I don't see any sourcing in your recent changes so I have reverted to avoid antagonizing other editors. See WP:CITE for instructions on including sources. ~Kvng (talk) 02:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don’t know how to write source on the edit so I put in the column which appeared and I cut and pasted and published. I am not good in editing sorry. Monty Rajkumar (talk) 02:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I can help you compose the changes. Which two sources did you intend to include? ~Kvng (talk) 02:55, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hannay, Maj. Simon Fraser. 1847. Sketch of the Singphos, or the Kakhyens of Burmah: The position of This Tribe as regards Baumo, and the Inland Trade of the Valley of the Irrawaddy with Yunnan and their Connection with the North-Eastern Frontier of Assam. Calcutta: W. Ridsdale, Military Orphan Press.
Tun, Sai Aung. 2001. ‘The Tai Ethnic Migration and Settlement in Myanmar’, Myanmar Historical Research Journal No. (7), June, 2001.
Thanks Monty Rajkumar (talk) 03:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done ~Kvng (talk) 03:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you so much will never forget your help to resolve this issue. Keep up the good work Monty Rajkumar (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shri Munjaba Tample, Ukkadgaon[edit]

AfD is here for your deprod: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shri Munjaba Tample, Ukkadgaon. I should have asked you before I started the AfD but were you able to find a citation to verify the existence of the location Shri Munjaba Tample, Ukkadgaon and can you add it to the article? Ben Azura (talk) 20:46, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Designedits (03:45, 12 February 2024)[edit]

Hello, i believe created a page but i can't seem to tell if it's been submitted for review or published? --Designedits (talk) 03:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Designedits, Draft:David Hicks (interior designer) looks good. Reviewers will have a look at it within 6 weeks. I'll keep an eye on it too. ~Kvng (talk) 15:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP:PROD on John C. Sigler[edit]

Hi. You removed the WP:PROD template from the article on John C. Sigler with the comment "Deletion contested, all other past directors have articles."

However, this is not true. I believe you may have been confused by Template:National Rifle Association only including Presidents with an article and having no red links. However, lots of previous NRAoA Presidents (see: List of presidents of the National Rifle Association) do not have an article - only the ones who independently meet GNG (which may include being a President of the NRAoA but also tends to include some notablity in their professional career - e.g. Charlton Heston, Oliver North, etc).

Is there some other reason you oppose deletion, or will you consider reverting your change? If not I can post it to AfD, as it genuinely does not meet GNG. Many Thanks! Hemmers (talk) 14:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My conclusion was based on all the blue links in National_Rifle_Association#Directors which I now appreciate may be an incomplete list. If you still think this should be deleted, you will need to use AfD. Prod is for uncontroversial deletions that do not require discussion and the process doesn't actually allow a prod to be restored. ~Kvng (talk) 15:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nomination of Caim for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Caim is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caim until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Chris Troutman (talk) 05:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]