Hi, a question and a point. First, in regard to [1]- the word "archaelogy" is a valid spelling and was internal to a quote. Therefore it should be left as is. Second, Are you User:Nogster? I ask since you edited that user's user page. If so, why did you construct another account?JoshuaZ 01:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the encouraging words. I really do need a break. I've about given up (not quite) on defending MJ on wiki because I feel so alone sometimes. Thanks for stepping up. inigmatus 01:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC) :)
User page looks good. Be sure to join Wikiproject Messianic Judaism and put the banner code to mark you as a Messianic Jewish editor. inigmatus 05:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Love how you're rocking HaMashiach's name on your page! Lookin good, Dude. HaShem's grace and peace upon you & yours Rivka 18:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The problem with listing modern movements on this page on Wikipedia is that we'd have to have some kind of third-party, verifiable information about them and their beliefs. This threshold would seem to be met by making reference to books published by other-than-vanity presses, or perhaps (at the least) newspaper articles. The reason this policy of verifiability (and concomitant notability) is necessary is to prevent Wikipedia from becoming a site for anyone with a website to self-promote. Wikipedia aspires, after all, to be an encyclopedia, albeit an open encyclopedia. I respect Wikipedia's vision.Wlmh65 20:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
That a Torah Observant Jew could go so far off the derech as to say that he is a Yiddishe Notzri (Hebrew/Yiddish for messianics.) My machshovos on the issue are to say things that I cant and wont say on wikipedia. --Shaul avrom 12:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Please don't re-created deleted articles, it is against policy, grounds for speedy deletion, and ultimately grounds for more serious action. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
To begin with, the notion that someone is an "Important Messianic Judaism figure" is almost inevitably POV and/or original research. That said, you could create a category Category:Messianic Judaism figure, or something similar, and add the category to the bottom of each article. Jayjg (talk) 22:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I replied to you at Talk:Jewish English Bible translations. Your edit was clearly well-meant, and there was never any suggestion that it was vandalism. For more, see my reply.Dovi 22:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
If you have comments regarding the content of specific articles, it's best to put them on the Talk: pages of the articles in question, rather than on User talk: pages. Jayjg (talk) 03:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I disagree.
1) NT is a corrupt document and is filled with non-Torah concepts and emendations done by Hellenistic groups to support their positions. See the work of scholars Bart Ehrman, Geza Vermes, Hyam Maccoby.
2) The historical Yehoshua taught and argued elements of the oral Torah. The written Torah implicates the oral Torah in many places--this has been argued for centuries so I will not bother rehashing it. The oral Torah is part of the Messorah. I suppose you may be a Karaite, but the fact is the historical Yehoshua would not have been in agreement with them, but was one of the Perushim who supported the oral Torah: see e.g. Harvey Falk, Geza Vermes, Hyam Maccoby, E.P. Sanders etc.
I see little point in arguing with you, but you may find those authors worthwhile to study to learn more.Wlmh65 05:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to the Messianic Judaism editing community on Wikipedia. The MJ experience on Wiki is about as tough as it can get in the online world. Anti MJ Jewish editors abound on Wiki, to find out how many, just create a new MJ article. Feel free to restore the template, but realize there is an admin review process going on right now in the Wiki Deletions review page. The AntiMJ crowd may have deleted the template out of process, but we should attempt to restore it through process. We needn't lower ourselves and follow their example. If you have any Messianic friends that know a thing or two how to type and use the internet, bring 'em here. These Wiki MJ pages are the frontline for information on Messianic Judaism (just do a Google search); so our task is all the more important, and we should remain diligent. Thanks for stepping up. inigmatus 01:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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Again, please make comments on the relevant Talk: page. I will not respond further to comments about article content which are placed on my User: page. We are not having a personal conversation, but a discussion about article content, which should be open and easily found by all editors interested in that page. Jayjg (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Please accept consensus and do not re-create this template. The arguments for deletion were solid and not demonstrably based on religious bias. The fact that only messianic Jews !voted keep is not, I'm afraid, evidence of bias in anyone other than the messianics. Hard to accept when you have strong feelings, but them's the breaks. Guy (Help!) 20:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Noogster, I replied to your comment on my talk page. I am not sure how to PM. Jamie Guinn 02:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I spent something like six to eight hours over 2/13-2/15 cleaning this article, and you wiped that out in a few seconds flat, and you ask me about rude? At least I used the talk page, you did not. I have reverted, and am now adding in your additions, so that the tens of updated, verified, and checked citations do not disappear. -- Avi 16:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Please stop reverting the citations. I am adding back your additions, but you keep on removing the work and effort of others. If this continues, this will be a serious content dispute, and I the page will have to be locked until we work this out. Is that what you wish? Remember, you do not own the page any more than Inigmatus, Kendrick, JoshZ, or I do. -- Avi 16:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Noogster, MANY people, not just myself, have added work, and no one person "owns" the page. It is actually poor wiki-form to make such sweeping changes without a discussion. I am lookiing at your edits, and you have done a LOT of good work. Let us MERGE the two, instead of reverting back and forth. -- Avi 17:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I think I was able to graft in the vast bulk of your edits. Please look it over and add in what I left out, but I'd request you add, as opposed to revert. Thanks. -- Avi 18:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed the comment you left on Avi's talk page. There is an article for Yedioth Ahronoth. The spelling of "Ahronoth" is a little unusual, although that's the they spell it at Ynetnews. According to Google, there are roughly the same number of hits (245,000) for Yedioth Ahronoth as there are for Yedioth Ahronot (266,000) and Yediot Achronot (214,000). There's a redirect page for Yediot Achronot, but you might want to set one up for Yedioth Ahronot or some other alternate spellings. — Malik Shabazz | Talk 23:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the template, check the talk. While no one says it is complete, inigmatus agreed as well that it is a good start, and isn't he the one who moved it back into template space? -- Avi 01:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I am not going to opine on his notability; I will say I don't think this person would be a speedy, there are points that may be considered notable, so I would say go for it. Just make sure that everything has a source. For example, I would like to see the letter from the Ch.Rabbi that you refer to. Also, there is a spectrum in Orthodoxy. From a personal perspective, I'd like to know which Rabbi converted him, as it may well likely not be accepted. Conversion is a very tricky issue, especially as Orthodx Jews are NOT big into prosylatization, and the rules are complicated, so any, evem slight, deviation may invalidate the ceremony. As for teh website claiming Lashon Hara, of you read the Halachos, especially as brought in Chofetz Chaim, certain issues MUST be spoken and are not L"H. For example, if there IS a chashash on the Geirus, this must be exposed to inform possible suitors that the children of these people may not be Jewish, which, of course, affects yichus, and things like that. When there is no toeles, of course it is Lashon Hara, and even when there IS a toeles, it has to be handled in a dignified manner, but. like all Halachos of Yidishkeit, there usually is not a cut-and-dried Halacha. Except for the Gimel Y'harayg V'lo Yaavor, there are exceptions to every rule (almost always ONLY in cases of life-or-death, but you get the idea). -- Avi 14:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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Just so you're aware, WP:3RR is a strict policy on Wikipedia. You can be blocked if you revert an article more than 3 times in 24 hours. Please don't let that happen. Jayjg (talk) 22:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Noogster, you may not think Messianics worship Jesus, but there is a reliable source that says that they do. Perhaps even some do and some don't. Regardless, we all have to be careful not to let our own personal understandings and beliefs get in the way of wikipedia policies and guidelines. Steiner is as a reliable source as any in that article, probably more reliable than the internet sites, since it is a scholarly book and not someone's website. There is no reason, nor excuse, for removing it, I am afraid; and removing it because it makes you uncomfortable would be like IZAK removing that Messianics believe that they are Jewish because it makes HIM uncomfortable. -- Avi 00:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I've responded on the Talk: page. Jayjg (talk) 02:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Following a recent wheel-war over Controversies of Chabad-Lubavitch in which PinchasC did not let me write an article on Chabad Messianism even after an AfD implied consensus for such an article I was advised to write such an article in my user space. I have now done so and would be grateful for any feedback from you before I put it up. Happy Purim. David Spart 00:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Not tonight I won't revert, no. It's far too late here to get into this, and I have an early class in the morning. No doubt it'll make for some interesting and heated discussion tomorrow though. Have a good night. :) DanielC/T+ 01:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
On the Template:Messianic Judaism. Please revert yourself before you are blocked. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 04:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello Noogster, please note that the only edits I have made to the template have been to remove the WikiProject link (this was my latest edit), so your comments on my talk page are misplaced, apart from the WikiProject link, which I have discussed previously at Template talk:Messianic Judaism/Exclusive MJ. Please do try to discuss the content of the template on the talk page rather than reverting, as edit warring doesn't achieve any productive results (it is also worse on templates as every time you edit it a change has to be made in every page using the template). You are much more likely to get your points across by discussing them with other editors and reaching a consensus. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, mattbr30 08:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Noogster, you need to be more careful with your editing. Firstly removing valid warnings by calling them vandalism is in and of itself disruptive and vandal-like. Secondly Wikipedia is NOT a place to prosyletize. Please respect EVERYONE's right to believe, or disbelieve, what they choose fit. We edit articles, we do not comment on others' religious preferences on wiki. Thank you. -- Avi 22:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know.[2] Thanks.--Ķĩřβȳ♥ŤįɱéØ 23:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing them, I'll think about them. Jayjg (talk) 01:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I think you should voluntarily agree not to make changes of any kind in pages that have Jewish related content. You appear to be here to proselytize a Messianic Christian viewpoint, not to contribute to this encyclopedia of knowledge. I'm sick of answering you. Many of your changes to these articles are very subtle, and not immediately recognized for what they are. You don't have the background or education or knowledge that is required to be working on the articles you are trying to work on. --Metzenberg 05:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
You claimed here that Kirbytime said to you "You don't own the fucking template." You can file an abuse report. This user should be blocked for abuse, as well as putting in the title WP:DICK as the header of the page. --Matt57 20:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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Howdy. My compliments to you on the way in which you kept cool and friendly in your responses to some negative comments above. I don't have any barnstars lying around, but please accept a thumbs-up. :-) (Disclaimer: I don't know you or AFAIK the other posters you've responded to, and I don't think that you and I would agree about anything theological.) (Ethics, probably: theology, I don't think so. :-) ) Have a good one. -- Writtenonsand 15:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Noogster,
Just wanted to say thank you for being understanding, and I hope there is no animosity between us now. If you happen to be looking for an inexpensive, high quality university level introduction to Judaism, the Teaching Company (www.teach12.com) has Shai Cherry's 24-lecture introductory course on sale now for MP3/ACC download for only $34.95. Shai Cherry is the young Vanderbilt University professor who has become the leading modern expert on Judaism and evolution. I have not heard the course myself, but I am a big Teaching Company fan. --Metzenberg 06:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Please comment at WP MJ/Categories when you have time. Thanks! ⇔ ChristTrekker 14:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Please comment on T:MJ as well, thanks. ⇔ ChristTrekker 15:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
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Some people are selective they would like to see only lists of their own domination, what do u think does this list warrant deletion or shoud we let it stay?[3]--יודל 13:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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If it is possible please write your opinion on my topic on Messianic Judaism page about Daniel Zion. Thank you. Vladislav1968 (talk) 08:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)Vladislav1968
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