The first 32KB of my talk page (May 2006 - August 2006).
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Dear Palffy, I would love to help and I will. I am not too sure how the copyright works either and many of the pictures that I uploaded where deleted.
I think that it would help to put this under the licensing.
((fairusein|Name of player} *It is used solely to identify the subject. *It is released by the source specifically to promote the subject in question.
I will try to do as many as I can. Good Luck - ILDuceMas 20:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not 100% of the copyright laws, but I think US law applies, due to the servers' location. Wikipedia:Copyrights isn't too helpful, but Wikipedia:Userboxes/Sports/Football has no club logos, except D. Kiev, so perhaps it is allowable.
I noticed the work you'd put into the templates, so I was reluctant to revert, but you'd also deleted the cumulative table (probably accidentally). Otherwise I would have left your edit. I didn't realise there is (or may be) a different rule for Ukrainian images, so, accept my apologies if I was wrong to revert.
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 21:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the thanks. It wasn't a big deal because I did most of Project Runway and used basically the same format. Crunch 09:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I think that Ukrainian club logos shouldn't be added to articles about Soviet competitions. First, there are copyright reasons. Ukrainian logos are not subject to copyright under Ukrainian law, but other logos (most importantly Russian) are copyrighted and thus should not appear in articles (except for fair use). So Russian (and possibly other) clubs will never have logos next to their names in the tables. IMO it's quite inconsistent to add logos to some clubs (just because you can) but not to others. The second reason is that clubs must have had different logos back in those days. Conscious 06:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
For scorers, I used klisf. Go to СССР/Высшая лига and select a year. Then click on the team and you see the squad. This site is also useful for checking the old names of clubs/cities, as well as finding what's the modern name (click on a club name, then on "Club history").
ЦДКА is Центральный Дом Красной Армии, more even funnier names are at ru:ПФК ЦСКА Москва and their website. You're using rsssf, aren't you? Conscious 13:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, When i created this template, I thought flags of eliminated teams would be erased from Group Stage boxes, to imagine last 16 matches more easily, because finally this template become ununsed when the last 16 are all known. You did it too early. Khardan 22:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC). Khardan 22:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC) My english is bad, like our football team, I know
Please don't refer to other users like Jooler as trolls. By using language like this you yourself are trolling and this is not the way to collaborate on Wikipedia. Diplomacy works much better and I'm sure you'll achieve much more in our community if you attempt to follow the simple guidelines we have such as Wikipedia:Civility. Cheers! jaco♫plane 00:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Can you figure out how to make this so that the boxes/columns are a fixed size so that when you squishthe page horizontally you don't end up with everything stacked on on top each other? Jooler 09:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
that's happened to me before too, sorry about that....cheers...Evill72 23:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
hi I think that's not a good way to delete others post, just let other sections be remain. regards Behnam Ghiaseddin 17:33, June 23, 2006 (UTC)
--that's a joke, of course I know better than you. every more information in wikipedia will help people to know more. but some one like you just want people know what you want to know!! I hope you change your way Behnam Ghiaseddin 17:18, July 17, 2006 (UTC)
Hello to you too,
Please see Talk:Andriy Shevchenko before making anymore article edits to Andriy Shevchenko.
Thank you, Xioyux 17:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Then I must ask you a question. You think that only league goals and appearances matters. But look at allmighty Pele stats. Brazilian league started in 1970, should I erase Pele's previous stat? Of Course no, all stats counts. Alfmaster 17:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
So, then it's unfair choice do delete madly. It's democracy not your madness. Alfmaster 17:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a place where I can see the discussion regarding what should be in the infobox and what shouldn't? As while I don't think goals scored in cups should count I do think goals in european cups should count. Yonatanh 16:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
First off, I don't see how american professional sports are related to the subject at hand and how you can compare the difference between regular season and playoff games and between international competitions and national competitions. You could make the same case about the leagues. Why should a Bayern Munich striker who scores against FC Koln have this under his profile as opposed to him scoring vs. AC Milan? Or why should Thierry Henry have scoring against Sunderland and not scoring vs. Juventus. You could make the same argument both ways so I think the Intertoto shouldn't be included and the qualifying rounds shouldn't be included as usually teams who make it to the group stage aren't THAT bad and don't get defeated 8-0 like may happen on aggregate (or in one game) in the qualifying rounds (Steven Gerrard vs. TNS for example). Maybe we should make a rule that ridiculous scores shouldn't count on a player's page such as Lyon's 7-2 vs. Werder Bremen or Arsenal's 7-0 vs. Middlesbrough\Everton or Shevchenko's four goals vs. Fenerbahce? Anyway I think I've made my point. Yonatanh 01:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I still don't see the connection as american football and baseball are nothing like real football. I was being sarcastic when speaking about not adding ridiculous scores to profiles because of course they should be there. The European cups are generally at least as strong as the domestic leagues and therefore should be included in the player's profiles. Yonatanh 14:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Which of the criteria on Template:PD-UA-exempt are you claiming football club logos fall under? ed g2s • talk 19:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if I've made a convincing argument regarding the dubious information, but see here. Blur4760 10:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
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Sorry, The Dynamo Kyiv page is very confusing. Aliev is a midfielder, then they register him as a forward? Ahh, and they keep saying that they want rid of Aliev anyway. The problem is they don't update their "team page" and I thought the squad should be posted according to that, not an article. Should I edit the Squad Template to go with this article, then? [[1]]? Hopefully it's the correct "lastest update" on their squad, since Corea is seven. Xioyux 02:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed on my watchlist you re-adding the ELO ratings to the clubs articles, do you think that maybe the AQB Sports Ratings should also be added. They can be found here as they seem to have, out of all the systems I have seen, the most accurate to current form top ten. Philc TECI 16:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Palffy! I see you are writing Ukraine-sports related articles. May I ask you to announce them at the new article announcement board of the Ukraine Portal so that other users can see them? Thanks, —dima /sb.tk/ 20:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Could you *STOP* removing the "move to Commons" templates? Those flags *SHOULD* be on the Commons, where all projects can use them, not just the English Wikipedia... —Nightstallion (?) 06:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
With regards to the above, thankyou for that rather naive comment on my talk page. I have deleted it. FYI, as and when I see fit, I shall continue to remove these unofficial rankings too unless you care to take the time and trouble to offer me a reasoned argument to the contrary. regards Marcus22 12:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Here you go again:-
"It seems like you delete everyone's comment from your discussion page, anyways, so are you just trying to show your ignorance to others? How is it that you have a PhD again??"
I am quite happy to talk about the matter in hand but have no wish to enter into discussion with someone who freely posts such abusive and ignorant comments as the above on my page or on any other. Please endeavour to show a little maturity and do not so again.
As to the ELO rankings, I can see your point. But they are, as yet, unofficial and not recognised by FIFA. (Even if they are perhaps more 'accurate'). Thus they should not be included. Consider if someone introduced another unofficial system, and then another, and so on. Which would one include or not include? Serious question. The answer is one would be reduced to including those which one considered the 'best'. But that is precisely the POV kind of position we should not be encouraging.
Certainly were FIFA to recognise the figures they could and should stay. In the meantime they do not belong. Marcus22 15:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
(Moved comment to here so that the discussion can be kept in one place) I was just making a point that you don't like to have anything in your "Discussion" page in the first place and that your behavior doesn't equate to that of someone who holds a PhD...
To the original issue at hand, you're right in that, they're not official or sanctioned by anyone. And as you suggested, there already are many other rankings out there such as AQB Sports Ratings, etc. that rank these same teams differently. The issue is that none of these rankings rely on a method that actually mirrors a teams strength based on actual probability. The Elo Ratings do just that (read the chess Elo Rating page to see what its about). These ratings are actually the OFFICIAL ratings of several sports and the Elo Football Ratings are the analogous ratings for football teams.
Lastly, non-official ratings have been used significantly to gauge actual strength of teams--I don't know how familiar you are with American College Football and the BCS, but they have used averages of several popular non-official ranking methods in order to calculate which teams are strongest and are to play in the title games [1]. --Palffy 15:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Thankyou. But please do not make presumptions on my behavoiur. I clear the talk page rather than let it clutter up. It is, after all, 'my' talk page thus I can do as I wish.
As to the ELO: as I have said, I can see your point. I do not disagree with you. But, nevertheless, the ELO rankings (and I know the system reasonably well through Chess) are not official rankings for these teams. The inclusion of these figures as opposed, say, to the AQB Ratings is thus POV and you must include AQB and other unofficial figures as well in order to avoid this accusation. Far easier IMHO to simply remove the ELO rankings until such time as they are recognised. I guess the choice is yours. Marcus22 15:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Why not compromise and include the AQB as well - at least that would reflect a genuine spread of opinion on rankings and not a bias in favour of the ELO? If you do that then I can see no problem with your including the ELO... Marcus22 09:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Tagged for deletion as I moved it to the commons. That means that that image will be usable from any wikipedia or Wikimedia project, so the same image may be used at the english and dutch wikipedias and the estonian wiktionary, for example. Just thought I'd give you a heads up, in case you wonder why your image was deleted here at en:wiki. +Hexagon1 (t) 23:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
A day later, the verdict is in:
Favorite user quote:
In the end he get the page protected on his version and the tag removed: Tell me the truth, is Palffy the son of someone important here on Wikipedia, that the rules do not apply to him? --Kwame Nkrumah 18:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Please do not remove warnings and other content from your talk page. It is considered uncivil and may be vandalism. You can archive it instead.--Kwame Nkrumah 23:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi and thank you for your response to a 3RR violation. Although I may not agree with your ruling, I will accept it as is. The problem now is that the same person has now began harassing me, [18], on my own talk page and is deleting my OWN responses without my permission. I'm not exactly sure what the right thing for me to do is, but I just want nothing to do with this guy. I apologize for some of the strong language that I've used in my responses, but I have never seen anyone as persistent as this poster. Thanks and let me know, --Palffy 23:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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From Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR:
I think I deserve excuses for your rudeness. You falsely accused me of breaking the 3RR, of sockpuppetry, and of writing "spiteful posts" when you were on the verge of breaking the 3RR.--Kwame Nkrumah 23:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
It is customary to warn a user that he was inserted into WP:AN/3RR list. You just was.--Kwame Nkrumah 18:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)