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Hi, thanks for your message. As far as I can see, the only source you have thus far is Gray's own website, which, naturally, isn't neutral since he wrote it himself. It would be helpful if there were some newspaper-articles or other stuff that write about him. Let me have another look, maybe we can shuffle things around a little; meanwhile, try to read WP:RS. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 20:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
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I've gone and redirected all your articles to Will Gray. Creating duplicate articles creates multiple issues down the road, because editors begin to work independently on different ones, ultimately creating vastly different articles on the same subject. If your article doesn't survive deletion process, then those redirects will also be deleted, so there isn't really a need to get rid of them yet. Also, when you're writing messages on talk pages, remember to compose your message at the bottom of the page, and sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~). Now get to work finding reliable sources to establish notability for this person. Cheers, Steamroller Assault (talk) 21:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
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This as now been rectified with a copy righted image --Vanishingrabbit (talk) 01:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi
The Will Gray wiki page as been there since 2010 without a problem I've updated the photos and the text to be relevant and not out of date also added more citations, could you please tell me why it is now up for deletion. (Vanishingrabbit (talk) 14:57, 28 January 2019 (UTC))
Also now fixed the two unlinked PDF files--Vanishingrabbit (talk) 16:58, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nick
Thank you for replying thats very insightful I have two PDF's one which is the letter from the president himself congratulating Will on being promoted to MIMC and one of the Magic Circle minutes where it is mentioned in the secretary's report.
Would they be best to be put on as citation links or just links.
Ive also put a link to Will winning 3rd at The Magic Circle Close up Comp which is no easy task.
I'm really hoping it doesn't come to deletion but do understand why these things happen any further help would be great.--Vanishingrabbit (talk) 09:59, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
The problem is, there's no magician-based policy for notability. I've been wracking my brain to think how to go about gaining consensus on that - maybe our village pump. I'm honestly not sure on that one. But if you can a) find reliablle publishhed sources to support exactly what gaining MIMC entails, and who merits it, then that would help. Then, b) you or I could present that for consideration as a criterion for notability. In the meantime, should a page get deleted we have a thing called WP:REFUND where one can later on request 'undeletion'. Don't hold out too much hope, but let me know what you think. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nick
Thanks for the reply and help I've found a couple of sites that mention the president has to award MIMC and that its the highest award but being a private club theres very little on this, even other wiki pages that mention MIMC only link to the Magic Circles wiki page if you wouldn't mind presenting it for consideration as a criterion for notability it maybe better. thanks for the help I'll keep trying thanks--Vanishingrabbit (talk) 17:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nick
I’m confused once again someone as mentioned three links that are mistakes and the list of magicians mentioned which are just a list of magicians on Wikipedia which he wouldn’t appear at the top of with his surname beginning with G--Vanishingrabbit (talk) 00:11, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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