TAKING A BREAK!!
I have some big stuff about to happen at my gym that I need to focus my time on.
I have worked hard to keep the cyber bullies in the MMA project in check, although many times it seems like a losing battle. Sorry to leave you guys hanging, but I'm about to start working on a big project that I need to spend time on. Hopefully it's still in 1 piece when I get back.
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Wow! 15 new members in October! Welcome CarlosB2709, ComputerJA, De132Wiki, Dolson94, I remember halloween, Miufus, MMAcleanup, Onebadtown, Poison Whiskey, Rissx, RonSigPi, Stewwie, TheAmazingChandler, Willdawg111, and WilsonFiskUFC. |
This is just links and information put on my talk page that I want to save while keeping my talk page clean
I'm working on laying out details for a proposal to put before the MMA project to create a point system of notability. Please DO NOT change anything in this section. If you wish to contribute ideas, please do so, I want to hear what people think, however, please create another section below for that. Thanks.
So amateur fights don't count in general?
I was thinking this looks nice. If a particular UFC fight was replayed on the main broadcast (and sources can be found to confirm) I think it should count as a main card fight for points purposes.
You are breaking my heart not putting Pride on equal footing with the UFC. I also think TPF/PFC should be worth more. I went on a rant about it on the mma project talk page a little while ago. I also think Sengoku/WVR and EliteXC should be bumped up to the strikeforce catagory. THey put on some big fights. While might be a little outdated, it shows that EliteXC was getting half decent ratings on primetime. Although I do think that no amount of fights with deep, jungle fight, or naafs is enough to make someone notable without the third party sources to support them. Once you hit eliteXC's current level (still think it should be higher). I'm not familiar with Invicta to comment on them. nice start, its good to see people shaking things up. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 21:05, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
edt:don't forget about BodogfightsPortlandOregon97217 (talk) 01:16, 1 January 2013 (UTC) PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 01:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for the SPI on JonnyBonesJones! LlamaAl (talk) 23:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC) |
First of all, thank you for building a table for fighters that do not have a wiki page. I'm sure it will be very useful both now and down the road.
With that being said, I wanted to talk about the TUF fights and their stance on wikipedia. I went back and read the discussion on MMA notability from last month and do understand your point. However, wikipedia consensus from Day One is that the fights do not count toward the three top tier fights necessary for WP:NMMA. The details about the NSAC and the time limits are accurate and would be a valid reason in most cases. But there's one big difference. The UFC recognized fights on TUF as exhibition bouts, not as professional ones. In my opinion, they are an important part of an article on, say, Amir Sadollah of Rashad Evans. But consensus has always been that such bouts are on the same level as if the UFC were to hold amatuer bouts, which WP:NMMA says do not count toward notability.
I appeciate your passion in defending MMA articles, but the policy and consensus as they stand aren't on your side. However, if you could prove a TUF fighter meets WP:GNG, they should be exempt from deletion. Key word, of course, is "should." That's what saved Mike Ricci and Neil Magny from deletion, but it's not easy to prove to some editors whose names we all know and don't need to name.
I hope you understand and continue to help out on the fighters list. Thank you again for trying to keep MMA on Wikipedia. Luchuslu (talk) 03:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
There is absolutely no consensus not to count TUF fights. There are people who claim that but if you look at the afd discussions, the group is clearly split on this subject. We don't have anywhere near a consensus for or against counting them, so by default we need to follow the guidelines as they are written, and there is no way that you can consider them ammy bouts. It is illegal for somebody to take part in an ammy fights once they turn pro, not to mention, ammy fights are 2-3 minute rounds, they use way more rules, and they use bigger gloves. TUF doesn't even come close to being an ammy fight. Willdawg111 (talk) 12:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
== mma talk ==/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts/MMA_notability#Organization_notability_for_Shooto
I haven't seen your input on this page. Not at the Shooto article directly, although I think you will be amused at how Poison Whiskey can't hold a candle to my ability to use a search engine, or my general mma knowledge. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 23:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Specifically you can look at this thread. --TreyGeek (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Willdawg111, I originally posted as a response to your recent comment on ANI but decided it would be better/easier just to ask here away from as much of the drama. (Talk page watcher, please, if you don't mind, don't jump in on this one except for clarification. Humor me, if you would.) I'd like to focus on one of the edits in question -[one]. It's an edit to the results table made on January 12th, well after the result format discussion on WT:MMA was closed. In that edit, you moved the judges votes from the method to the decision column to the notes column. Do you think that matches the format deemed the consensus preferred format in the WT:MMA discussion? If it doesn't, why didn't you follow that format? Ravensfire (talk) 15:45, 15 January 2013 (UTC) (EDIT - I realized after posting this that it sounds a bit like a "gotcha". I apologize for that, I'm not trying to do something like that and won't carry anything from this to anywhere else, nor encourage anyone else to do so. I'm trying to understand a few things and see if maybe there's something that can be done to reduce the drama level.) Ravensfire (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
If you're curious, there are some instructions on archiving at WP:ARCHIVE. Basically, you create a separate userpage, like User:Willdawg111/Archive1, and then move things there when you're finished with them on your talk page. I've often found it useful and/or entertaining to be able to go back to older conversations; feel free to look at mine to see one way they can work. There's also a program that will automatically archive; I don't use it, but lots of people do. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:05, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Apologies for interjecting again, but I saw your edit comment about not know what archiving is. It's something that's used on Wikipedia to keep discussion pages, including user talk pages, to a manageable length. It's purely optional and can be done automatically or manually. If you look at my talk page, for example, you'd see a box in the top right corner called archives. I'm just not that active so I don't get a lot of talkpage posts. For me, I just manually archive (basically move posts from my talk page to a sub-page of my user talk) posts periodically. I used to delete annoying posts but I rarely do anymore - I just ignore stuff I don't care about. There's also automatic archiving which is common for users that do have a lot of posts on their talk page or on many article/project talk pages. The WT:MMA page has the archive box at the top. If you click on the Edit this page link on the MMA talk page you'd see some template code at the top about MiszaBot. That's the bot that automatically archives the page according to the settings in that template code. The page WP:ARCHIVE has some more information on archiving.
Archiving or not archiving is entirely up to you. Mainly, it's done to help keep the talk page to a manageable length - lots of talk topics can be hard to navigate and slow to load! Some editors just delete periodically and rely on folks to use the page history. I like have the archive around for searching in case a comment I made in the past is relevant. Setting up automatic archiving is pretty easy to do if that's what you'd prefer. Then again, so is periodic deleting. It's up to you. Let me know if you'd like any help setting up an archive.
Per the discussion at WP:ANI, and according to the rules of WP:General sanctions/Mixed Martial Arts, I am topic-banning you from the area for a period of three months. You are not allowed to make any edits to any articles or discussions concerning MMA-related topics during this time. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts#Discussion_(Support_or_Oppose) Can you take a look at this suggestion if is good? Colton Meltzer (talk) 22:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)