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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Abhinav Girdhar[edit]

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This subject appears to fail WP:GNG. Citations used are either press releases or mere mentions. SarahStierch (talk) 01:31, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The reference list looks impressive at first glance, but on clicking turns out to be press releases or trivial mentions. The related article Appy Pie, created by the same user, has the same issues; can it be added to this AFD? Abecedare (talk) 19:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If you see below references, then you will see following references are from highly reputable news sources where journalists have featured mentions about the Founder Abhinav Girdhar

http://techcircle.vccircle.com/2013/08/29/diy-mobile-app-developing-platform-appy-pie-secures-10000-on-kickstarter/ http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-06-13/news/39952444_1_greater-noida-delhi-ncr-e-cigarette http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/04/16/appy-pie-launches-its-cloud-based-mobile-app-creation-tool-with-opentable-and-soundcloud-support/ Cxs107 (talk) 20:29, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Coffee // have a cup // essay // 22:06, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - having Reuters or AP host a copy of your press release is not the same thing as significant coverage from those sources. Anyone can pay a newswire to publish their press release. The different between that and significant coverage in reliable sources is huge. Having read the sources in the article, those provided above and any I could find with a Google search, I couldn't find enough to justify WP:GNG. Stalwart111 06:38, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep (no need to !vote twice) if you read the article carefully then you would have realized that the press releases were merely stating facts that the Individual founded these companies etc. and removing those references will not make much differences to the article, so I took your opinion and went ahead and removed those references, I would also like to mention one very important fact the article has a notable source as The Economic Times which is the India's most & world's second-most widely read English-language business newspaper.Cxs107 (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Economic Times article being cited does not even mention Abhinav Girdhar; it talks bout Rajat Girdhar, CEO of SMOKEFREE. There seems to be a mix-up in the wikipedia article and the Economic Times article should be removed as being irrelevant to the subject. Abecedare (talk) 19:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is not at all clear from the article - there is no way we could possibly verify your claim which is based on... I'm not sure what. You could just as easily claim that all references are to Rajat Girdhar to which the author refers by two different names. It's like claiming that in an article with quotes from Bill Gates, one of the quotes is actually from Melinda Gates because she happens to also be a director of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Have you any evidence at all beyond speculation? Even if it was Abhinav Girdhar that was being quoted, a single quote from the subject (not about the subject) certainly wouldn't be considered significant coverage for the purposes of WP:GNG. That article really isn't of much value for the purposes of this discussion. Stalwart111 04:44, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes I exactly see where you are coming from and I am leaning towards your assessment after the example you quoted also I see that one of the other editors has already removed this articles reference, so I added a few more notable sources to make the article inline with guidelines laid down by WP. Cxs107 (talk) 17:01, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I did go through your original article and it did have several sources as paid press, however I see that you updated the article and to me your most updated article appears just fine. John Gilmour (talk) 22:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)— John Gilmour (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
"Fine" by which standard, guideline or policy? Which examples of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources do you think allow this subject to pass WP:GNG? Stalwart111 03:28, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As I verified the "Claims" of the sources and they match up, like the individual featuring in the article was indeed a speaker at SES http://sesconference.com/delhi/speaker-profiles.php#abhinav-girdhar and his company did win the red herring asia award http://www.redherring.com/events/red-herring-asia/2012-asia-top-100/ . John Gilmour (talk) 16:32, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And? Which of those things make him notable? The fact that his company (not him) was in a Top 100 list or that he spoke at a fairly routine industry conference? He exists and we can verify that. But that doesn't make him notable. Stalwart111 22:57, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The article has very little content, because the sources are basically mentions. There is not enough usable material here to write an article. DGG ( talk ) 02:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete seems to be a case of WP:TOOSOON, particularly since the sources cited do not demonstrate intellectual independence and independence of the subject. The likelihood that future third-party sources will mention the subject or their application development platform is speculative. When those sources materialize , the article can be recreated (preferably by an unconnected editor). --Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - the sources identified are insufficient to meet WP:BIO. The Whispering Wind (talk) 21:06, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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