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The result was no consensus. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:54, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Moeen Nawazish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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The subject of the article is primarily known only for a WP:SINGLEEVENT of formerly holding a record for the number of A-Level school exams taken. The article is written like a promotional page. The subject's journalistic career is not notable per WP:JOURNALIST. A shadowy figure (talk) 02:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Journalism, Television, and Pakistan. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:29, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No pass of Prof or GNG. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]
• Delete - fails WP:GNG. 39.45.166.55 (talk) 01:15, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This article is much improved now after the above nomination. Fixed and updated many references. Removed all dead links and unsourced content and trimmed it down. This person was awarded the Pride of Performance award by the President of Pakistan for his achievements. One would think his achievements were extraordinary to deserve news coverage from The Independent (UK newspaper), BBC News and the Associated Press of Pakistan. Ngrewal1 (talk) 06:44, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for improving the article. I remain unpersuaded that the subject is notable for reasons in the nomination and which others have mentioned.

  1. The news coverage is of a single event.

  2. The Pride of Performance award is not so prestigious as to justify inclusion per se without further notability, and it is not one of the top decorations awarded in the country (Civil decorations of Pakistan). It is irrelevant that the award is nominally given in the name of the President of Pakistan.

  3. The subject matter of the achievement, namely high achievement in school, tends to be non-notable. As WP:PROF states, "Victories in academic student competitions at the high school and university level as well as other awards and honors for academic student achievements (at either high school, undergraduate or graduate level) do not qualify under Criterion 2 and do not count towards partially satisfying Criterion 1." There are no articles on other people who have received top grades on similar exams in the United States and China. It is worth noting that "A" grades are not even the highest grade attainable on A-Level exams.

  A shadowy figure (talk) 17:01, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep in light of Ngrewal's edits and improvements. Mar4d (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The single event of receiving good high school grades does not convince me of lasting notability, even with the Pride of Performance award for it. The coverage seems to have been very localized in time. No other sign of notability, at least as of yet. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 04:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Many athletes win medals only once in their lifetime, yet they are remembered for their extraordinary achievement all their life. This young man did that. This article is supported by many reliable sources. Kent Warfield (talk) 23:40, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 18:17, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete: This is definitely a big achievement, and it has certainly been covered well in reliable sources. ([1], [2], [3], [4]) However, those arguing that he is only notable for one event are correct. WP:BLP1E gives three criteria for when we generally should not have an article about a subject, and I'd argue that he meets them. While this is a great achievement, Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Bsoyka (talk) 22:30, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The subject might be famous just becuase of one event but it was still significant enough to receive coverage not just locally but internationally as well. He scored 22 As in his A Level exams which was a world record at that time. Jamalahmadpk (talk) 08:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I see no evidence for the assertion "The Pride of Performance award is not so prestigious as to justify inclusion per se without further notability". The year Nawazish received the award, he was one of just 58 people - in a country of 175 million people at that time. Passes WP:ANYBIO c#1. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 01:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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