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The result was keep. Keep and move to Alice and the Glass Lake. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 00:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alicia Lemke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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A very sad story about an up-and-coming singer who died of leukemia at the age of 28. That being said, also a failure of WP:NMUSIC and WP:SIGCOV. A WP:BEFORE search of both "Alicia Lemke" and "Alice and the Glass Lake" found two local newspaper articles (The Capital Times and Isthmus, two pieces of WP:ROUTINE coverage (the BrooklynVegan premiere of her album and the Billboard premiere of a music video), and a fun fact about Eminem sampling her vocals (repeated here). Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:04, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete A person who died but never hit it big. Agree it doesn't meet the criteria above. Oaktree b (talk) 18:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  I know I will be biased because I created the article, but I think she is notable. One of her claims to fame was that she was the vocals in "Trip the Light," which was the background music in the 2012 YouTube video "Where the Hell is Matt? (2012)". Considering we have articles on Where the Hell is Matt? and Matt Harding himself, I think it helps with notability and relevancy. I could try to find other sources as well, if that would help. I'll admit that, due to lack of secondary sources, the article may forever remain a stub, but I still believe it should remain. ~Junedude433(talk) 18:21, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment That might count for WP:NMUSIC under item no. 10. But the key thing would be if it were possible to identify any work of hers that has charted. Furius (talk) 09:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep, possibly move to different title - All of her music was released under the name Alice and the Glass Lake, and that musical act may have enough coverage under WP:SIGCOV for a basic stub article. I think the Billboard and Genius articles are a little more substantial than stated in the nomination, she got a couple of robust album reviews like this [1], and she opened for Fleetwood Mac as stated in the local newspaper articles. But note that my vote is "weak" and I won't argue with anyone who wants more evidence of notability. Meanwhile, the article makes the mistake of trying to construct a personal biography of Ms. Lemke when it would work better as a band history under the band's name. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I have included more information about her and the appearances of her works, namely that Kiesza wrote a song in her memory after Lemke's death, a song of Lemke's appeared in the television serials Awkward., Billions, and Station 19, and two of her songs appeared in the 2017 movie Suck It Up. I hope this does a better job at establishing notability. ~Junedude433(talk) 15:06, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I appreciate you taking the time to find more sources, however I just wanted to note that IMDb is not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia, because it contains user-generated content that isn't always fact-checked (see WP:IMDB). Kncny11 ^(shoot) 16:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not really sure what else to cite though. I went ahead and actually watched the specific episode of Awkward. just to see, and sure enough, it was undoubtedly one of Lemke's songs. However, I couldn't find any specific source to actually cite to show it. Obviously, a link to a video someone uploaded on dailymotion probably isn't the best source either. ~Junedude433(talk) 17:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Has received minimal, but sufficient, coverage in mainstream sources. The fact that this coverage did not occur until after her death is irrelevant; she is notable now, and that is what matters. Mlb96 (talk) 03:33, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Alice and the Glass Lake. Ultimately the coverage on the artist herself is too slim to pass WP:NMUSIC, but I think the reviews of the musical act do pass WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 13:35, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to "Alice and the Glass Lake" per 4meter4. As a person she might narrowly fail notability, but I agree that the coverage overall is sufficient for an article. --LordPeterII (talk) 18:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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