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The result was redirect to America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12. MBisanz ^talk 20:29, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Allison Harvard[edit]

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A person of questionable notability. Although I realise that 4chan is popular, I don't really think being popular on their forum automatically equals notability. It would be different if she was all over the Internet or something, but her fame is limited to those that follow her on this forum. That leaves the second point: being a contestant on America's Next Top Model.... Again, as just a contestant right now, notability is an issue. Things may change if she wins the cycle, but as of right now, I feel that it's a bit premature to have an article on her. As WP:NTEMP states, "[A]rticles should not be written based on speculation that the topic may receive additional coverage in the future." (There's also the issue of sources, because The CW/ANTM have not released any last names on contestants yet, and the subject herself has taken down her personal website and MySpace; the subject has also received little third-party coverage (outside of Top Model blogs and fansites). So there really aren't any reliable sources for her out there right now, making verification almost impossible.) SKS2K6 (talk) 19:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I believe Allison Harvard should have a wikipedia page. As seen previously, the winner and runner up of America's Next top model have a wikipedia page and while it isn't a large page at the moment, her popularity from the show, which has just finished airing, will allow her a more prominent image in the media. I have added information to her wikipedia page, with references and citations. I believe she is now a notable person due to her runner up position in america's next top model as well as her previous work that includes her internet images and her artwork. LuvLei (talk) 17:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Previous seasons of The Amazing Race hadn't released last names by CBS website (except TAR8) just like ANTM doesn't release last names of contestants. ApprenticeFan (talk) 14:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: True, but they do eventually release it to media outlets; how else can media outlets write articles and conduct interviews? SKS2K6 (talk) 17:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I believe we need to re-evaluate whether she deserves to be up for deletion again as she has since become a runner up in ANTM - her wikipedia page was nominated for deletion on the 6th february; it needs to be re-evaluated whether it now deserves deletion or not now. LuvLei (talk) 08:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Allison did illustrate a book recently, so her artwork goes beyond blogs. I have added this to the Wikipedia page, along with a citation. Also, Harvard's status as a Top Model contestant is now on the official America's Next Top Model Cast Page. Aggiew (talk) 20:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC) --This should count as a Keep[reply]

• Delete Illustrating a children's book isn't notable. Nothing notable from a google search. Ddawkins73 (talk) 20:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Illustrating a children's book can be notable. Illustrating a self-published one (instantpublisher.com) isn't. The Amazon link in the article for the book doesn't work for me. Being a contestant on one of these Next Whatever programmes isn't notable. Winning it might confer a limited notability, but it doesn't compare with hard achievement. Some day Allison may be notable. Not yet, sorry. Peridon (talk) 21:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can be, yes :) - Ddawkins73 (talk) 22:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect while I would like to keep the article, i have to agree that, she has not yet filled the criteria for notability. But, there are people who search for her, and she will probably be notable in thee near future. so instead of deleting the page redirect it to America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12, and preserve the archive. -Misty Willows (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect per Misty. For those who are in non-notability in these ANTM contestants, see the bunch of redirects of ANTM contestants. ApprenticeFan (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete If she wins the competition, simply make the page again. I'm sure if people search for her they can search 'ANTM' or 'ANTM12' like some people do. It'll also offer a list of pages with her name on, ANTM12 being one of them. Kegzz (talk) 00:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12. Plastikspork (talk) 03:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Alison has over 100,000 freinds on her myspace page trhat alone is notable, and has had shows in art galleries. Ive been searching for her on Wikipedia long before she ever had anything to do with America's Next Top Model. -146.74.231.178 (talk) 22:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to [[America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12] Harvard is not notable enough to warrant a wiki entry without top model--so far. However, if she gains mainstream popularity because of Top Model, she will be a rare example of someone who was popular years before mainstream media interest, more so on Myspace than 4chan.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.