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The result was keep‎. Thanks to the research and work on the article Star Mississippi 04:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American Whiskey Trail[edit]

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It's not clear that this promotional program is notable - the majority of sources in the article point to the program's own website. The article was created by a single purpose account banned for sockpuppetry who has ties to DISCUS, the organization that created this program.

There was discussion on the article's Talk page back in 2008 suggesting that the article should be deleted, but it was never nominated. Martey (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's enough here to write an article. Every source says the same thing: the trail exists, it's an industry-created promotional tool to drive tourism, and it starts at the George Washington estate. I don't think that coverage is significant enough to allow us to write an article. Also, as I noted in my !vote, the second source you've provided reads as very promotional and I question its independence. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no evidence that the article by the McClatchy-Tribune News Service's Mary Ann Anderson is a non-independent source. She is an established journalist who provided her opinion about the American Whiskey Trail. That her opinion is positive does not exclude her from being an independent reliable source.

There is enough information in the sources I found to support a standalone article that discusses each stop of the American Whiskey Trail. A merge to Distilled Spirits Council of the United States would lead to the loss of sourced content or be undue weight if everything is merged. Cunard (talk) 10:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough point regarding Anderson, but I was struck by how promotional the tone of that article was when I first read it. In any event, I do not believe that a standalone article that discusses each stop of the American Whiskey Trail would be encyclopedic. Per WP:N, an article needs to both meet GNG and WP:NOT. In this case, Wikipedia is not a travel guide, particularly where many of the sources you've cited are 5+ years old and some of the distilleries and other locations on the tour have very likely changed since those reviews were written. An article noting that the trail exists and describing each stop on the trail would quickly go out of date and would not be useful to readers. I think a redirect to DISCUS, perhaps merging a list of the current locations of the trial and citing to more recent reviews, would be appropriate. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anderson 2007 discusses the geography, historical background, and the writer's perspective of each stop on the American Whiskey Trail. Stecher 2017 discusses the architecture, historical background, and the writer's perspective of five stops on the American Whiskey Trail. The geography, architecture, historical background, and writer's perspective will not is encyclopedic content that does not violate WP:NOTTRAVELGUIDE. Having this information enhances the reader's understanding of the subject. Cunard (talk) 22:44, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that those sources are reliable and contain significant coverage of the individual distilleries. However, as you noted, their descriptions are about the stops on the Trail, not the Trail itself, which is just a list of distilleries that was created as a promotional travel guide by an industry group. If anything, those reviews should be included in the articles on the relevant distilleries. I don't see the value of collecting reviews of disparate distilleries into one article just because those distilleries happen to be part of the same travel guide. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The topic of stops on the American Whiskey Trail meets Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists. I consider it encyclopedic to present an overview of each of the stops on the trail—their historical background, geography, and architecture—in a single annotated Wikipedia list article just like several independent reliable sources have done. Cunard (talk) 23:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.