The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 04:54, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amitriyaan[edit]

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Was CSD for promotional purposes, article does not appear to be hence not a speedy delete. Contested on talk page. Sending to AfD for discussion administratively. Tawker (talk) 18:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Tawker (talk) 18:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I'm not sure in what universe this isn't a raging advertisement, but he also doesn't appear to be notable. He's had a few film roles but nothing that's received particularly significant coverage and most of what is in the article is blatant mass produced Indian churnalism. PRAXIDICAE💕 18:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:52, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  With more than 8 movies as a lead and parallel lead roles and 2 webseries and still page is being discussed to be deleted is lil strange . Many actors who have not even done even half of Amit Riyaan's work profile are already on Wikipedia . Someone called praxidicae put the point it's ' Indian churnalism ' . It itself sound RACIST and biased with half knowledge . regarding coverage in today's world

  almost  everything is bought in media world and gets covered. That is real advertisement more than work profile. Someone who has niche fan following and isn't into bought media coverage is being discussed for advertisement issue is not at all logical and fair . Sandeepth2785 (talk) 08:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  @Sandeepth2785 The media in India, especially the entertainment media, has a few respected outlets. Those which are not respected rehash PR stories. This is termed churnalism. While Praxidicae might possibly have explained this in more detail it is an unfortunate fact that most entertainment media in India has a less than stellar reputation.

  Since churnalism in this class of media is a fact, and 'Indian food' is not a racially unacceptable term, it is a large leap to suggest that the deployment of the term 'Indian churnalism' is racially motivated. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I see WP:ADMASQ here. I have sample checked the references and find interviews with Riyaan, material about some of the things he has been in but not necessarily mentioning him, and nothing to show that he passes WP:NACTOR. I see a jobbig actor who may make it one day. At best it is WP:TOOSOON 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The outcome of the deletion discussion is not helped by a copyright picture having been uploaded to Commons and included (for now) in the Infobox 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  And now a further unpermissioned picture added to the article is at Commons 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 April 27. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 15:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Given the transclusion issue
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:48, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first order of notability of a living person is sourcing. The bar is raised higher than with other articles and must follow Wikipedia:policies and guidelines. There should be multiple independent and reliable sources that providing significant coverage to advance notability.

There is no set number but at least three would be enough to "convince anybody". There is a difference in a source that supports content and one that advance notability even though the last can certainly also support content.

The first source I checked, about a feature film titled "Zee5 Movie: Atkan Chatkan; Cast: Lydian Nadhaswaram, Yash Rane, Sachin Chaudhary, Tamanna Dipak, Ayesha Vindhara; Direction: Shiv Hare; Rating", was confusing and disappointing.

I am not up to date on "Indian churnalism" but coud imagine this might be an appropriate discription. I do not think anyone should have to dig around to try to be convinced there is notability. If sourcing is not improvable then notability is absolutetly not proven. -- Otr500 (talk) 21:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Procedural note. This AfD was in fact correctly transcluded in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 April 23 when it was nominated, but a subsequent move confused cyberbot and XFDcloser and led to it appearing in multiple daily logs. It is now only listed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 May 1 and can be closed or relisted as normal after 2022-05-08. – Joe (talk) 10:12, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  thanks for the explanation! I figured it was listed somewhere given the early votes but wanted to err on the side of caution/full visibility. Star Mississippi 14:27, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maharashtra-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:13, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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