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The result was delete, no sources provided activate the conditional deletes below. Daniel Bryant 09:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Avant coast (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Non-notable organization. Google for <"Avant Coast"> (with quotes) gets 55 Google hits, mostly brief mentions of the name, and no detailed write-ups in reliable sources. [1] Of the external links provided, 2 are non-references: 1 is to the main page of a related group, 1 is to Avant coast's own website, and the only reference provided is to [2] whose only mention of Avant coast basically says that the organisation exists, and not much else: "After February, Keith and Webb formed a group called Avant Coast, which tries to move creative, improvisational music into the public eye and encourages collaboration between local musicians. The group presented a show in Kittery last fall, and on Feb. 23, they are starting a new music series in the Lotus Rising dance studio at the Mills at Salmon Falls in Rollinsford." Resurgent insurgent 15:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• from the author

The assertion that the Wire magazine is associated with Avant Coast is incorrect. This is a small, worthwhile organization in my area that I felt was interesting and important within the realm of creative improvised music. Their model is very close to that of the AACM, and I thought that would be enough of a reason to create an entry. I'm confused; is the assumption that my entry was a shill for the organization? I also made contributions in the form an entry for Dick Griffin, a valuable musician in American music. Most of my source material came from Griffin's site, but that was not questioned. I'm just confused about the process. There are a great many topics which will not produce much in a google search, but does that necessarily make them unworthy? Please understand, I'm not questioning the rules, but my goal in creating my account was to contribute information which is absent. As a life-long student of Jazz music, I have a great deal of information to offer, but it seems like much of it will be questioned by the current posting criteria. I'd like to know that before I expend more time (this first page was roughly 4 hours of research). Please bear with me, this is a learning process and I'm trying to do right by Wikipedia. Im not the guy 15:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• The article is being nominated for deletion due to lack of cited sources. This makes the group non-notable per our criteria for music group/artiste articles. Resurgent insurgent 16:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Is there any step that will save this entry? The organization is doing some very important, artist-centered work in New England and if there is some way to get this done, I'll do it. I'll lobby some newspapers and TV shows to cover it if need be. I'm an enthusiast of this type of music and this organization, IMHO, deserves to be here.Im not the guy 22:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please don't... newspaper editors evaluate their subjects' notability quite well without people lobbying them. If in due time anyone outside of Wikipedia writes about Avant Coast, we can have an article on them; until then, no. Resurgent insurgent 00:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Neutral- It seems that this article should be deleted if reliable sources cannot be found then it should be deleted.--Joebengo 22:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nominator's reasoning. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep assuming that some references can be found, at least reliable web references.DGG 04:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• delete. . Mukadderat 17:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.