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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia isn't a collection of memes, no sustained notability. DrStrauss talk 20:33, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Oh it's a cartoon shark. That's disappointing. Generously, this one is WP:TOOSOON, if there's sustained coverage in the future it may be notable enough for an article. We don't even have a standalone article for Left Shark, which should give one a good idea of the high standards for comedy shark articles on this encyclopedia. A Traintalk 11:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment For what it's worth, I have heard at least 3 versions of this song, maybe more. A combination of having a 4-year-old grandson and having worked in pre-K for 4 years. However the first version I heard was on a CD, although it was a little different than the online versions, starting with "row your boat" or something like that. This actually makes me think the research on this is sub-standard. I first heard the song in late 2013, so it is not as immediate as some of the sources suggest.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:39, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment "Baby shark" is even played on radio stations in the Philippines. — BSrap (talk) 18:10, 21 October 2017 (PST)
- Comment There is this Forbes article [1] which says it traces the history of Baby Shark, but it has deeper history than this. As I said, I know I first heard the song in 2013 from a CD. Pinkfong did not invent it. After thinking I remembered that the CD was by the learning station. A quick internet search showed me this [2], which was posted to Youtube back in 2011. It would help if people reporting on child-related phenomenon talked to people who actually interacted with children.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment A simple internet search showed lots of scout related websites reccomending "Baby shark" as a good camp song. I think if someone cared, they would push the history of baby shark back a lot further than 2011, although I have to admit never having heard it before 2013.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:04, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Well this book [3] Music, Dreams, and Coming of Age in the Heartland mentions the song Baby Shark on page 42. That book went to press in 2007.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I have found versions of this song in the online Girls Scouts campsongs and another version here [4] and several more.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:49, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment here [5] is the Kansas 4-H songbook, published by Kansas State University, that has a version under the name "The Shark Song".John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This [6] 2011 history of Camp Cory namechecks "Baby Shark".John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:55, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This might be the most scholarly reference yet. [7] it is from the book Yo' Mama, Mary Mack, and Boudreaux and Thibodeaux: Louisiana Children's Folklore and Play by Jeanne Pitre Solieu.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:07, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Baby Shark shows up in the 2012 book "Drama Soup which is a collection of over 100 warm ups for drama. it appears on page 27.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:10, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The song also appears in the book Hamster Heroes to the Rescue: The Mystery of the Shadow in the Yard & Retirement, a fictional book published in 2012.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:12, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This book [8] indicates baby shark as a classic at Church retreats in Kenya.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:06, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. It looks like some of the stuff people have found here shows that this meets notability guidelines. Maybe work some of it into the article, if it isn't already there? Nick012000 (talk) 09:23, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep John Pack Lambert has commented many times (dunno why, he can just edit his first comment), I rate him as the most shocking deletionist, so for him not to vote delete is encouraging. A quick check of what he found suggest this article meets WP:GNG. Dysklyver 09:36, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- KEEP Per John's commentS. Bobherry Talk Edits 12:57, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per John rescue effort , wide viewership it received and the fact that a reliable source reported about that Ammarpad (talk) 00:42, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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