The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, default to keep. Mergers remain an editorial decision. Sandstein 06:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Below the line (film production) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I nominated this article because it belongs either on Wiktionary or as a small section on the Film page. It's basically a short definition that I don't feel could be expanded further. I am also submitting Above the line (film production) for the same reasons. Quadzilla99 21:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete "Above the line" as dicdef. Weak Keep and Rename to Below The Line (magazine) on "Below the line" - the magazine has the potential to be notable, at least. Tevildo 22:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I've added more clarification to the different jobs that fall under "Below the Line" and the distinction between ATL and BTL is very important in film budgeting. Also the ATL deletion box links back to here; there is no deletion page for it. But I'm also for keeping the ATL page. I've added more clarification to it and again it's important for the people that will actually be searching for it. Joey 23:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep both one - The article should be expanded (and not only for costs, but also for crew classification). The term is well know so it should be possible to expand with good material. Eventually merge Below the line (film production) into Above the line (film production). It is no a simple dicdef (and see also dab Above the line). Cate | _Talk 13:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC) --Cate | _Talk 10:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge I think I agree that these terms don't necessarily need their own articles; as important as they are, there isn't much more to say. There is actually an article on Film budgeting which would be the perfect home, and a Production budget stub which references ATL and BTL could be merged too. There are several similar articles/stubs in Category:Film and video terminology; some are deserving of their own articles but perhaps others may be merged into other pages. The list Motion picture terminology is a place to start. TheRhani 02:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

comment - ATL and BTL is not only about budget. I use it also for notability in AfD: BTL (technical and artistic crew) are per se n.n., ATL people needs more checks (an awarded film "creates" notability of some ATL). So merge BTL into ATL, but keep one! --Cate | _Talk 10:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.