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The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 00:51, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

High school student who "hates Liberals". No evidence of notability despite his campaign to be the next George W. Bush. -- Antaeus Feldspar 23:10, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Gwaki 23:22, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC) Keep because as more info is posted you will truly see how he hates liberals and is running for president. I am partly done with it. -- Gwaki 23:11, 31 Jan 2005 keep

• Delete, looks like something from something awful--nixie 23:42, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, blatant vanity/flamebait. — Ливай | ☺ 23:55, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Delete hard. Vanity, not notable, etc, etc. TomTheHand 23:59, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)
• The article as submitted offered that "Ben Rider hates Liberals with all of his heart and would love to see Micheal Moore burned alive." Delete, of course. Also, every image looks photoshopped. Samaritan 00:12, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• I do think the job of being GWB is already taken...Delete. humblefool® 00:33, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. High school vanity. Ridiculous. Average Earthman 00:56, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I'm thinking....vanity maybe? :) --Woohookitty 01:02, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Every image is real and i think it was a good contrbution. his name gets hits all over google. Infact Ben Rider BSM and Tripod but are part of Google suggest
  • Just because your name pops up on Google doesn't mean you're famous or otherwise notable enough to be noted in an encyclopedia. Countless millions of people have been able to hang around the Internet long enough to get a couple hundred Google hits. An encyclopedia's job is not to list them all. Please see Wikipedia:Vanity page. — Ливай | ☺ 01:34, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Running for president. Riiiiight. You do know you have to be 35, right? Delete. Raven42 01:14, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Yes I do but you need to start getting affliated at 18. He has over 200,000 Hits a week
• Delete child vanity, speculative notability, spam, and probably a future (shudder) poli-sci student. Please write about something other than yourself. Gazpacho 02:51, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Exteme-super-doubleplus delete!!!! I really hope that this is a joke. I think it is, because of the picture of Ben showing his "Commanding skills" by standing in front of a bunch of seagulls at a beach. Why don't we ask him? --NoPetrol 03:25, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) (e-mail link removed by Gazpacho)
• Delete, not notable, vanity. Megan1967 03:45, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Li'l Hitler before the putsch. -R. fiend 04:13, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Ask him all you want. He is a true commander
  • • Why are you ripping on Someone you don't even know - JR
• Delete I think I might know this guy from one of the Yahoo groups I lost touch with since I saw the shining aura of the Grand WikificationWeaponofmassinstruction 05:16, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• He looks "special", but not in the way intended. Delete. -- Hoary 08:08, 2005 Feb 1 (UTC)
• Delete Haha high-school vanity, non-notable. Please wait to be notable enough for someone to write an article about you rather than you about yourself =) ÅrУnT^†_∈ 08:52, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Ridiculous. Sometimes children need to be protected from themselves. --BM 11:56, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete I agree with BM - it is ridiculous - can this be the biggest piece of Wiki-rubbish ever? Brookie 14:06, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, of course. But rather than literal vanity, this looks like malice to me. I don't think Ben Rider himself is the person behind this. The site the article links to now has the text "Also Alex Hansen created this site about me, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Rider and apparently it's being shut down because people don't like it. Go to it and see what you think". Wikipedia:Vanity page says that some pages that seem to be "vanity" pages contain embarrassing (and possibly false) details about the subject's life and may not be written by the subject of the article. These pages should be speedily deleted, as they may contain libelous material or violate copyrights owned by the subject. Does this mean that this could be considered to be covered by speedy deletion criteria #3 (Vandalism)? If so, by all means, speedy. If not, the semi-policy seems inconsistent with the actual policy. Considering we have a fair bit of these things, I think it would be useful to find a way to actually speedy the average Malice page, although I see the problem with drawing the line. / Alarm 20:52, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. I wouldn't be so sure that this article is completely mocking him, as difficult as that may be to believe -- although there is clearly some mockery in the photos. Rider seems to acknowledge the WP article on his web site, saying that it was written by some friend of his. He seems to know about the VfD vote, and sends his readers over to read the Wikipedia article. --BM 01:12, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Wonderful. That means he and his friends can read my delete vote as well. If this isn't out-and-out malice from someone other than the subject, it's the work of someone who discovered our little slice of heaven and is exploiting it for a laugh. OK, then...enjoy the chuckle for now and consider seeing an opthamologist about that "lazy eye."  :^P - Lucky 6.9 02:16, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: The only other contribs by the anon that wrote this little bit of fluff are vandalistic ones to Adolf Hitler and Fidel Castro. Just so y'all know. - Lucky 6.9 02:21, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Actually I wrote this at my school after my buddies where screwing around on the computer. Lokk atwho did all teh edits. User:Gwaki

• The pictures are from a highschool band trip and form his other swebsite, which links to the site given on Wikipedia.
• Delete, for so many reasons I can't pick just one. How about a lack of encyclopedic interest to start. Tuf-Kat 03:08, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)
• I can't believe we actually have to waste time voting to delete crap like this. Gamaliel 03:12, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Vanity, Joke, etc. Delete ral315 22:02, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

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