The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. No prejudice against a recreation with proper sourcing, if that's possible. W.marsh 16:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Bill Still[edit]

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This appears to be a poorly sourced, poorly written biography of a living person who appears to be some kind of conspiracy buff. I suggest that we clear up the sourcing concerns or delete it. --Tony Sidaway 05:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete The article's just an excuse for yet another long ramble around a bunch of obscure absurd conspiracy theories without any supporting evidence whatsoever. Nick mallory 07:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Nick mallory, and for having no sources and for almost certainly violating WP:BLP at some stage. tomasz. 11:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Lacks reliable and independent sources to satisfy WP:N. His top selling book on Amazon falls at number 399,000 (out of 4 million or so for sale on Amazon) and was published by "Huntington House Publishers" which is [1] a "Christian online publisher." His number two seller "Towards Spiritual Maturity " ranks #2,384,601. Edison 23:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That actually means that his book is in the top 10% of sellers on Amazon, and I'm not sure what you mean by quoting the "Christian online publisher" part. Christian books are a large niche in bookselling. The book is not just published "online" if that's what you're trying to imply, because as you provided evidence of yourself it's for sale on Amazon and in the top 10% of physical book sales there. So, basically, I'm not sure what your point is. I think you make a better case for the article than against! :) ---Gloriamarie 19:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete His books about monetary reform are self-published. The only possible notability is from his "New World Order, the Ancient Plan of Secret Societies," (Lafayette, LA., Huntington House, 1990); the article claims it influenced Pat Robertson's book of the same title. No sources are given for this. I don't judge NN by Amazon sales, but I see no reference to published reviews. As there is almost no personal biography, & the article is devoted almost entirely to his non-notable published writings, I dont see that BLP has much to do with this. DGG 23:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep He is the narrator of the movie "Money Masters", part of which I just saw and which was very interesting. Before deleting, time should be given to properly source the article. I was interested in the guy after I saw him in this documentary, and I'm sure others will be as well. It's interesting that he's written other books, and I think this is worthy of being on Wikipedia. --Gloriamarie 15:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep per Gloriamarie, pending proper sourcing of the article. --JayJasper 21:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete This article needs major cleanup to even be a biography. Its mostly a rant, poorly sourced. I agreee with DGG above. —Gaff ^ταλκ 20:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.