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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn with no delete suggestions. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 21:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Ditmas[edit]

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No sources besides for Allmusic. Seems to fail NARTIST (although he possibly signed with a label at some point). Google doesn't turn up anything beside basic music database sites. Hydromania (talk) 11:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC) Withdrawing.Hydromania (talk) 09:12, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Hydromania (talk) 11:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Hydromania (talk) 11:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Author Keep The article cites Feather and Gitler's Biographical Encyclopedia of Jazz, a standard reference work on jazz, in which Ditmas has an article; there is no reason why we should not have an encyclopedia article for a musician covered by jazz encyclopedias. This leads me to believe that the nominator didn't read the article closely. AMG is an RS, and it substantiates his playing with a raft of jazz luminaries; as the discography notes, he recorded with Pat Metheny, Gil Evans, Carla Bley, and others of note, which is why he would attract the attention of jazz publications like AMG and Feather/Gitler. A cursory Internet search yields yet more: [1], [2], [3]. Chubbles (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and add more sources. I'm not saying allmusic isn't reliable, just that I'm unsure it establishes notability (see for example this discussion). As there aren't multiple RS giving him WP:SIGCOV, notability under WP:NARTIST should be established. The best thing to do to ensure this survives the deletion discussion is to find more references to add to the article. Or explain why he's notable according to Wikipedia's guidelines concerning musicians. Hydromania (talk) 02:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to have read neither the article nor Chubbles's comment correctly, because you have completely ignored the entry in the Feather and Gitler book, which is already in the article so there's no point in ordering anyone to add it. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:55, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's plenty of coverage from a Google search, e.g. [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], as well as several briefer mentions confirming his contributions to other albums with notable artists/ensembles. --Michig (talk) 08:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He's covered in Biographical Encyclopedia of Jazz, an entry already in the article, in addition to all of the other sources listed above which demonstrate his notability. Alansohn (talk) 16:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In addition to the above, he has an entry in Grove, which is one of the standard reference works for biographies of musicians (sub required to see the whole thing). I'll add more sourced info to the article when I have time. EddieHugh (talk) 16:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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