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Delete Fails WP:NALBUMS. The ABC interviewer does mention a mixtape, but doesn't say which mixtape he's referring to; there were three as of the date of the interview. According to the Rolling Stone interview, the most notable thing about the mixtape was that it introduced Drake to Lil Wayne; that is, the mixtape wasn't in itself of note. The remaining references are tracklists. Notability of this mixtape isn't established by significant coverage in reliable sources. Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He's notable for his role in a Canadian television series. He's not notable as a musician. Even if he was, you'd not keep an article on a non-notable mixtape. Per WP:NALBUMS, "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines." The Globe and Mail said he only "made minor waves" with this mixtape; it may have been a breakthrough for him, his big break as Rolling Stone put it, because it introduced him to Lil Wayne. In itself it's forgettable. A fan might treasure its role as an artifact of Drake's career, but it is not notable in itself. Yappy2bhere (talk) 16:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He certainly is notable as a musician - if you look at the sources used in his article, most (e.g. Billboard, MTV) are discussing him as a musician rather than as a (child) actor. I wouldn't keep an article on a non-notable mixtape but I would keep an article such as this on an official artist-produced mixtape that has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources.--Michig (talk) 18:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"[A]n official artist-produced mixtape"? As opposed to a bootleg, yeah? I see it this way: Drake (entertainer) is a child actor who would like to be a musician. That's why there are no albums but only self-financed mixtapes in his discography. Drake Bell is an actor and a musician. That's why you find albums in his discography. See the difference?
No matter how you spin it, this mixtape isn't itself notable, and it doesn't automatically become notable simply because Drake (entertainer) has an article in WP. "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." (WP:NALBUMS) That includes this mixtape. Yappy2bhere (talk) 03:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not all mixtapes come from an artist and some are not sanctioned by the artist. There are no albums in his discography because his first album hasn't been released yet. End of story. Degrassi isn't a big deal in the UK and nobody over here knows him as an actor, but he gets played on BBC Radio 1, with his "Forever" single labelled "The hottest record in the world for 6 Jan 2010" on the Zane Lowe show.[1] Have a read of this article (which may also educate you as to the difference between an official mixtape and an unofficial one) and then tell us that he isn't notable as a musician. Have a read of GNG - significant coverage exists so it passes.--Michig (talk) 07:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While Michig and I disagree on many things, I agree with him that Drake is certainly notable for his music as well as his acting. When I first started seeing Drake (and related) articles (quite a while ago) he wasn't, but now he has accumulated more than enough press and cred (not to mention hit singles) to pass WP:MUSICBIO. (I still don't think this mixtape is notable.) A little back and forth is fine but when name-calling enters the equation it's probably time to step back. Both you and Michig have made your points-of-view quite clear, let's leave it up to any other !voters who happen to stop by and the closing admin to decide for themselves. TheJazzDalek (talk) 23:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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