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The result was delete. Appears to lack sufficient sourcing to show notability, after clarifying the difference from a similarly named, more prominent award. RL0919 (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dadasaheb Phalke International Film Festival Awards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Fails WP:RS and WP:GNG as a result of no reliable sources being found. Previously deleted and WP:MILL. AmericanAir88^(talk) 11:42, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy Keep there are references on this festival...better keep than delete. Ozar77 (talk) 17:09, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You apparently aren't familiar with our General Notability Guideline, since the number of reference isn't the threshold for inclusion. "Significant coverage" is required, and just showing up to photograph the event isn't the same thing as writing in depth about the festival itself. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:14, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Googling for this seems to reveal a number of sources covering the event, and not just passing mentions.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:53, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Amakuru: Can you provide any? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:16, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Previous speedy deletion of article was for advertorial tone and copyvio; not non-notability. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep there are enough references for it and is very popular in the country. Meeanaya (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Meeanaya: I have to question your rationale. What do you mean it "is very popular in the country"? How old is this film festival? Looks brand new to me. Also, are you erroneously confusing this film festival for the Dadasaheb Phalke Award? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• delete I couldnt find any significant coverage for this festival. I think other users, including Amakuru, are getting the subject confused Dadasaheb Phalke Award. That award is presented annually at the National Film Awards ceremony by the Directorate of Film Festivals, an organisation set up by the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting. The subject of this AfD is a result of brand highjacking, and WP:MILL. pinging @Amakuru, Meeanaya, and Ozar77: —usernamekiran(talk) 16:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  Update: What I mean is, subject of this AfD, and Dadasaheb Phalke Award are two different things. They have nothing to do with each-other whatsoever. The only common thing is that they are named after a very respected film-maker Dadasaheb Phalke. —usernamekiran(talk) 16:33, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This is one of several run-of-the-mill awards that is confused with the Dadasaheb Phalke Award, which is the premier lifetime award in Indian cinema. See this Hindustan Times article about several such clones, and this current discussion that I (coincidentally) started yesterday on how to deal with this confusion/deception on wikipedia. As for the credibility and notability of this award itself: even after browsing through the award site I was unable to determine the names of the past award winners, and press coverage seems to limited to image galleries of attendees.
  PS: Editors googling for sources should be aware that there is another (likely also non-notable) Dada Saheb Phalke Film Festival, with its own awards, run by a "research and branding company". Even real-world publishers like Times of India mix up press-releases by all these festivals/awards. Abecedare (talk) 16:03, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - As per Abecedare. See this Hindustan Times article (courtesy of Abecedare), where it is clear that people are using Dadasaheb Phalke's name to convey prestige and importance, and most of all, to make a quick buck. This article reeks of paid editing, too. Why would we care about what appears to be a brand-new festival? This organisation barely had a functional website in 2017. This isn't some polished festival organisation run by industry big-wigs. Also, Ozar77's argument above is invalid since none of the so-called references speak about the festival in any significant detail. Republishing press releases doesn't qualify as significant coverage, nor does publishing photos that you took of the event, since the press was almost certainly invited to help with promotion. Delete. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Note for participants: See this current related discussion that provides some useful background and links. Feel free to chime in there too. Abecedare (talk) 19:37, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Fake copycat award piggybacking off the real one; fails GNG. TryKid (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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