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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  17:36, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dakota Ditcheva[edit]

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Teen age amateur Muay Thai fighter who fails to meet WP:NKICK. Coverage is routine sports reporting and fails to meet WP:GNG. Jakejr (talk) 07:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 08:33, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article should not have been moved out of article space while the AfD was in progress and I messed up trying to move it back.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:51, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am requesting here to the closing Administrator, Please userfy this article to my userspace draft. User:Marvellous Spider-Man/Dakota Ditcheva as she is not that non-notable as the nominator thinks due to these sources BBC, mirror, elle uk and being in the news for being a world champion. maybe world champion at the junior level, but still a world champion. Marvellous Spider-Man 18:22, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:49, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:49, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think your interpretation of WT:NSPORT is wrong since it recommends using the sport specific criteria, which she clearly fails. Both MMA and kickboxing clearly state amateur competitions don't support notability. Junior competitions are virtually never considered enough to meet notability criteria--and I've never seen it in a martial arts case. Astudent0 (talk) 14:43, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have been watching Coolabahapple work in Nagpur for one year. I agree with the above comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.39.143 (talk) 02:02, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Just when support votes, pile on. One member of this team comes to vote delete. If you think that BBC, Daily Mirror is local coverage, then you are missing WP:CIR. --Marvellous Spider-Man 14:11, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer to WP:AGF. I just corrected what I assume was a simple editing error by Astudent0 and notifying the article's creator of an AfD is not required, although it is considered a good practice. All editors make occasional mistakes. For example, in your comment above I assume you meant to say that Astudent0 had been editing WP for six years, not that he was six years old. Papaursa (talk) 00:38, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Astudent0 could have corrected his own comment. Why did you take the responsibility to correct his comment. How were you sure that, at this time he won't be able to reach the place from where he usually logins? Marvellous Spider-Man 13:19, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You really are quite tiresome. I corrected the statement because it didn't make sense to me so I suspected other editors coming along would also be confused. I have corrected obvious mistakes by other editors before, but I always make a note that I'm doing it. Papaursa (talk) 00:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can check the date of account creation: you can see when I created my account, not my birth certificate. Nice try. Marvellous Spider-Man 02:16, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I believe you missed my point about mistakes. Papaursa (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You said I happen to agree with those who also don't believe that WP:GNG is met.. Those two comments made before you are by Jakejr and Astudent0. Marvellous Spider-Man 15:18, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As well as PRehse who agreed with the nom and Minima who stated the coverage was not quite enough. I'm not sure why you keep trying to make a controversy. Papaursa (talk) 00:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Now lets wait and watch whether Mdtemp comes to vote delete. Marvellous Spider-Man 02:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say it's hard to invoke WP:SPORTCRIT when she doesn't meet the particular notability criteria for her sport. Amateur and junior championships are rarely considered sufficient to show notability, and I can't think of any cases where it's been enough for a martial artist. As for coverage, it's pretty clear that the Messenger papers are local coverage when the paper's tag is "Get the latest local news". Given that she goes to a school (Trafford) in the Manchester area, I don't see how you can claim the Manchester paper is not local coverage. Even papers like the New York Times have coverage of area athletes that can only be considered local. It appears there's a definite difference of opinion as to whether or not she meets WP:GNG, so I suspect this will be closed as a no consensus--and that means the article will remain on WP. Perhaps one day she'll meet the sports notability criteria. Papaursa (talk) 00:04, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Touché Coolabahapple (talk) 04:47, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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