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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 16:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Welbeck[edit]

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This player fails WP:BIO as he has never played a senior match for a fully professional side. The article is made up mostly of weasel words and NPOV statements, as well as a couple of uncited quotes. WP:BIO is quite clear on these matters, and the article should be deleted straight away. PeeJay 23:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Has not played in a fully professional league (WP:BIO). Number 57 23:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment While I agree that the article isn't good enough, I would like to believe that playing for England counts as the highest level of competition at his age (although there are exceptions). I will abstain from any comment on whether that level is high enough to meet the notability requirements, but that criterion does seem to have been overlooked. --StuartBrady (Talk) 23:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there a policy that states that people who represented their country in a junior age group are notable? WP:BIO only makes reference to sportspeople needing to have competed at a fully professional level, which this lad clearly hasn't. A boy I was at school with played hockey for England at (I think) U-16 level about 15 years ago but never pursued it as a career and now works in an office - would he really merit a Wikipedia article.....? ChrisTheDude 21:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, it doesn't require sportspeople to compete at a professional level, although I suppose you would consider football to be a "professional sport", in which case, it normally does require professional competition. However, below the age of 17, a football player in the UK would not be eligable for a professional contract, so I don't see how U-17's football could be regarded as a professional game. Surely it counts as amateur, in which case, it still fails because it's not at the "highest level" of amateur competition? --StuartBrady (Talk) 21:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. He doesn't yet fulfill the notability requirements. The article can be recreated if he does anything in the future to qualify. Qworty 03:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - junior footballer still someway short of passing the notability bar. - fchd 04:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - too early for an article on this player with potential. England "name-dropping" is not enough to satisfy requirements of WP:BIO. Ref ^(chew)(do) 23:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as he has not yet played in a fully professional league per WP:BIO. We can restore the article if he does break into the big-time. --Malcolmxl5 12:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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