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The result was keep‎. ✗plicit 06:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Datangshan[edit]

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This article cites no sources and has no evidence of notability other than having a museum (which has its own article). The location itself is not notable. DirtyHarry991 (talk) 02:39, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and China. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The relevant guideline is WP:GEOLAND. Does Datangshan pass WP:GEOLAND?
Datangshan is a hill and village in Xiaotangshan, Beijing, where it is mentioned. Xiaotangshan, Beijing is a possible redirect target if Datangshan found to be non-notable. Here are two sources I found:
1. "北京小汤山，热气腾腾的疗愈之地" [Xiaotangshan, Beijing, a steaming place of healing]. Beijing Daily (in Chinese). 2022-01-25. Archived from the original on 2023-11-12. Retrieved 2023-11-12.
  The article notes: "北京城北约40里，有一座由三个山峰组成的独立小山，山形如笔架，因有温泉泉眼，被古人命名为“大汤山”。大汤山以西约一千米处，有三个低矮山丘，也有温泉，被称为“小汤山”。在因抗疫而被载入史册之前，小汤山就是著名的疗愈之地，并受到多位皇帝青睐，也是民国时的旅游胜地。"
  From Google Translate: "About 40 miles north of Beijing, there is an independent hill composed of three peaks. The mountain is shaped like a pen stand. It was named "Datang Mountain" by the ancients because of its hot springs. About one thousand meters west of Datang Mountain, there are three low hills and hot springs, which are called "Xiaotang Mountain". Before it was recorded in history for its anti-epidemic work, Xiaotangshan was a famous healing place and was favored by many emperors. It was also a tourist attraction during the Republic of China."
2. Wang, Jiucheng 王久成 (2023-06-23). "北京小湯山" [Beijing Xiaotangshan]. World Journal (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2023-11-12. Retrieved 2023-11-12.
  The article notes:
  小湯山村發展成小湯山鎮，幾乎人所共知；殊不知還有一個鮮為人知的大湯山村，明代已經形成村落。村北有一個一百三十餘米高的山丘，與小湯山村一樣因山丘得名。原來大湯山村水資源豐富，山腳下有多處泉眼，泉水常年流淌不斷，溫度攝氏二十度左右，足以供村民生活和灌溉附近的農田所用。
  曾有諺語說：「大湯山好地方，山清水秀好風光。蔬菜四季有，花果滿山崗；池塘黑泥藕兒白，山下熱水稻兒香。」自然資源並非無窮盡，一九六○年代水源枯竭。大湯山村隸屬小湯山鎮，距小湯山村很近，雖然也有些企業單位入住，但村的境況遠不如小湯山村。
  From Google Translate:
  Xiaotangshan Village developed into Xiaotangshan Town, which is almost known to everyone; but little-known is that there is also a little-known Datangshan Village, which was already formed as a village in the Ming Dynasty. There is a hill more than 130 meters high in the north of the village. Like Xiaotangshan Village, it is named after the hill. It turns out that Datangshan Village is rich in water resources. There are many springs at the foot of the mountain. The spring water flows continuously all year round. The temperature is about 20 degrees Celsius, which is enough for the villagers to live and irrigate nearby farmland.
  A proverb once said: "Datang Mountain is a good place, with clear mountains and beautiful scenery. Vegetables are available all year round, and the hills are full of flowers and fruits; the ponds are black and the mud is white, and the rice is fragrant in the hot water at the foot of the mountain." Natural resources are not endless. In the 1960s, Water sources dry up. Datangshan Village is affiliated to Xiaotangshan Town and is very close to Xiaotangshan Village. Although some corporate units have moved in, the village's situation is far inferior to that of Xiaotangshan Village.
Cunard (talk) 10:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as meeting WP:GEOLAND per Hzh's rationale below. Cunard (talk) 05:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It would be nice to get a second opinion on these new sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Datangshan looks to be an officially recognized and populated village in Xiaotangshan, Beijing,[1][2] therefore should qualify under WP:GEOLAND which, as far as I can tell, doesn't say anything against the inclusion of a village. If anyone disapprove of a village being considered notable, then that should be taken at the talk page at WP:Notability (geographic features). Hzh (talk) 18:46, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per User:Hzh. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 02:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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