The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:22, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Author of a single gaming book and website. Lots of references to, and praise for, his book is available in a Google search, but I could find little or nothing from reliable sources on a quick scan-through. Google News search on <"don schlesinger" blackjack> since 2004 gets only one hit, and it a mere passing reference. Non-notable. TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 19:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC) Nominator now recommends "keep"; see below. — TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 14:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
TransporterMan looked for things that documented this person's life and works and came up empty handed. The article doesn't cite anything that documents this person's life and works, and was badly written. You haven't pointed to anything that documents this person's life and works. Prove that this isn't all just made up information about a person that whose life and works are not known and publicly and properly recorded and published, by pointing to where this person's life and works have been properly documented and published outwith Wikipedia. That's your only valid counterargument. All of the rest, including every point that you made, is irrelevant. Sources! Sources! Sources! Uncle G (talk) 00:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no vested interest in this particular article. But, most of the articles about people in this field are far better candidates for removal. Should I add them all to the deletion page? If you want to delete a Blackjack article about someone known for his work in the field by everyone in the field, let us delete the articles about the players that have stuck their names in WP first. I would hope that WP is about actual knowledge, not popular knowledge. Regards, Objective3000 (talk) 01:16, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.bjrnet.com/member/bjapr/I.htm
http://www.bjrnet.com/member/bjapr/D.htm
http://www.bjrnet.com/member/bjapr/S.htm#SCORE
http://www.bjrnet.com/member/bjapr/F.htm#Fab4
The “find sources” header of this page has links to news, books and scholar. Who cares about images? TRANSPORTERMAN says refs in news about Schlesinger are rare. But, he didn’t mention the books or scholar links. I tend to think that those are more important. After all, is Augustus Caesar is Google News that often? But, that’s just me.
If you click on the links that he ignored, books and scholar, you will find a very large number of refs. Hardly surprising as Schlesinger in mentioned in nearly every decent book on BJ in the last couple decades. In fact, if you have an extensive library of such books (as many of us do in the field), I would bet that Thorp, Wong and Schlesinger are the top three names in those books, in no certain order. (The fourth most reffed name is well down the list. And, come to think of it, it may be me. Who cares?)
As for the irony, David Eppstein has voted DELETE. But, he also has a personal WP page, and I can’t find “news” links about him either. He would claim that the article should be deleted for lack of resources, when his article has the same lack as stated at the top of the page. Let me go further. David’s article says that he is a professor at UC Irvine. The most famous of all BJ luminaries is Edward O. Thorp, an ex-professor at the same university, well-known for his work in the markets, and a well-known philanthropist. But, Dr. Thorp said about Don Schlesinger “Blackjack Attack is a valuable resource for serious blackjack players. It represents the distilled wisdom of twenty-five years from a master teacher and player." -- Edward O. Thorp.
David, please do not take this as a criticism and I don’t mean this to be personal in any way whatsoever and am not suggesting that your page be deleted. We probably have much in common as, looking at your page, I knew John Carr (one of the first presidents of the ACM, back in the 50s, that you belong to) and I gave a silly lecture at U of P on the subject of Monte Carlo techniques when you were three years old. (I’m getting older as we speak.) Not that I had any idea what I was talking about. Just find it humorous. But, you might check with Thorp about Schlesinger.
I’m not voting on this issue as the fact that I’m the only one here that is in the BJ field would probably be a violation of WP:COI. And, I’ve been told that I don’t understand the rules.:) But, it seems rather strange that people that have no knowledge of the field are voting on the relevance of one of the most respected researchers in the field. The perils of democracy.:)
Incidentally, I find it odd that no one has mentioned this deletion request on any BJ related page. Objective3000 (talk) 03:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete. Miserably fails WP:BK. He is not a notable author and does not have a notable book. His 55 GHits are pathetically small for a writer, and the people who published his book, "RGE Publishing, Ltd," barely do any better with 86 GHits [1]. In short, he may be "known" to a few people sitting around a table playing cards, but he is not notable in the world at large, which is what WP:BK requires. Qworty (talk) 23:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(outdent) Okay, now you're getting somewhere. You're halfway there. You're asserting notability, but you're not yet demonstrating it. What you need to do next is show us all of the specific sources so that we can evaluate them. Qworty (talk) 19:40, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(outdent) After that, I will demand that the article be kept. You must assume good faith. I don't have feelings one way or another about the subject matter. I didn't add the article either, and I have work to do too. This is an all-volunteer project. If you believe the article should be saved, then present the documentation that will save it, and it will be saved. If you have 38 quotes with links and/or page numbers, the article will be a slam-dunk KEEP. Hell, five good ones would do the trick. Qworty (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]