The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Non-notable, most of content is nonsense about something other than what the page is supposedly about. Jeff16:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Dubious claims at best, and the only thing remotely close to a reliable source is a single mention in a list of similar groups in a DOJ press release. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind16:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep back when Dreamcast was new, Echelon was very popular. Almost every game was cracked by them. Second of all, I'm pretty damned sure there is a "list of warez groups" article around here somewhere, I saw it a few days ago. These guys are one of the most well known, if not THE most well known, Sega Dreamcast crackers. At least merge their info into the warez groups list. --sumnjimtalk with me·changes20:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This group gained a lot of press attention during the DoJ raids in 2004, and were rather notorious before that time. Antelantalk21:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also recommend reading the first nomination for Deviance. the 2nd one had barely any input, most likely from people who don't know anything about them. They were throwing around guidelines for deletion anyways. Read the first nomination, where there is alot more discussion, and mostly keep votes. To say that these guys are not notable is silly. Search Deviance + warez in google. many many hits. --sumnjimtalk with me·changes16:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Locobot (talk) 02:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Ƙɽɨɱρᶓȶ01:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The only reliable sources mention the article subject in passing. I don't think the number of search engine hits is relevant in this case. Kevin 01:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Echelon was the target of a major DOJ investigation due to their prominence in the warez industry. The group is infamous and notable, especially in the global circle of piracy. The sources provided above go to show this. --74.73.16.23003:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.