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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elias Plagianos[edit]

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I nominated this article for deletion back in 2018 and it was kept since there was only one (other) delete !vote and one keep !vote using sources that I have come to recognize as shoddy and suboptimal for Wikipedia. Looking through a DuckDuckGo reveals only one suitable source for Wikipedia, which is an interview/press release. It was discussed in the 2018 nom that one of his films is notable, but that doesn't make Plagianos himself notable. If he is only barely notable, his status as a living person means we should err on deleting the article.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. For me, it's not much sources and all, as, the person just hasn't done enough to be notable for our standards. Yes, he has written, directed, and produced. But according to IMDb he's directed shorts and individual TV episodes, for obscure (I think) shows. Ditto really his producing credits, and ditto writing. I think he may have done this for one or two films but they look really obscure.

The assumption is that this doesn't indicate a notable enough career, in my mind, unless he's got considerable coverage for doing other things. He doesn't, unless its well-hidden. The one good source, an article/interview in Variety, is almost enough by itself to meet WP:GNG, as Variety is very notable and it's a meaty article, and you could probably fill it out with small bits here and there no make a reasonable GNG claim. But a lot of people could meet GNG that don't have articles and shouldn't.

And I mean the Variety article opens with "Filmmaker Elias Plagianos and his team had won the second-annual Science and Tech Script Competition at the North Fork TV Festival". The North Fork TV Festival is not notable enough to have an article here. I suppose it's in North Fork, California, an unincorporated community in the yokel part of California ("North Fork's economy was based in the timber industry until the local lumber mill closed in 1996"). If that's his top achievement... I'm not seeing an article yet. Maybe someday. Herostratus (talk) 21:58, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The programmable search engine throws up the two results given above, and naught else. BLP aside, this does not meet WP:BASIC --Whiteguru (talk) 06:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete: per nom. Fails GNG for BLP. Essentially WP:2S. Kolma8 (talk) 17:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given that this is the second nomination, deletion is (technically) controversial and thus speedy deletion doesn't apply.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.