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The result was delete. Bbb23 (talk) 15:23, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Thomas (tennis)[edit]

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Fails WP:NTENNIS and WP:GNG Kemalcan (talk) 05:37, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Kemalcan (talk) 05:37, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Kemalcan (talk) 05:37, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tennis-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I found an article in the Lancashire Telegraph and also one in the Clitheroe Advertiser. Not sure if there's enough to show WP:GNG there. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Strongly Keep - This player has played more than 250 matches and won 104 matches. So she is quite successful and notable player. Abbasulu (talk) 11:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Unfortunately the sourcing mentioned above is extremely local—the Lancashire Telegraph is a tabloid and, despite its name, covers only the east of the county, while the Clitheroe Advertiser and Times is a weekly paper covering a town with a population of ~16K. Regarding WP:NTENNIS, she would be deemed notable had she won at least one title in a number of ITF Women tournaments; the article is clear that she has won, in fact, none. ——Serial 15:16, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Serial's assessment of the sources available. The comment about winning 104 matches has no relevance to any Wikipedia inclusion guideline since those wins were all at a level far below that required for any presumption of notability. Wikipedia's requirements for notability ultimately will be down to whether the person has received enough significant coverage addressing them directly and in depth, which Thomas has not managed to achieve despite being prolific at a low level of the sport. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, Has its own website. [This] I found some articles I found multiple resources on tennis coaching career This and also one in the This. and This Vecihi91 (talk) 00:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have started expanding the article. I do not have any more time to work on it now, but I hope I have shown that there is enough there.

Someone having their own website does not in any way mean that they are notable. Almost anyone can create a website about themselves. The Desire Branding reference is extremely promotional and sentences like The wonderful Liz Thomas is a sheer force of nature. shows that it is connected to the subject of the article and not an independent or reliable source. The Concordia profile page is about a different person. The Stonyhurst announcement doesn't show any significant coverage of Thomas at all. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Source assessment - the sources in the article (which are the best available) fail to show significant coverage; fails NTENNIS, GNG and WP:BASIC Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:01, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table:
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
http://www.lizthomastennis.co.uk/meet-liz/	This is her own website	This is her own website		✘ No
https://www.tennisexplorer.com/player/thomas-54259/			Just a stats page	✘ No
https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/elizabeth-thomas/800250134/gbr/wt/d/overview/			Stats-only page	✘ No
https://desirebranding.uk/portfolio/liz-thomas-tennis/	A thinly veiled advertisement for the Desire Branding business	A thinly veiled advertisement for the Desire Branding business with Liz Thomas basically being a 'success story' for the business		✘ No
https://languageschool.stonyhurst.ac.uk/2018/05/09/former-british-tennis-star-appointed-as-head-tennis-coach/	She works at this school		No in-depth coverage	✘ No
https://athletics.concordia.edu/sports/womens-tennis/roster/coaches/elizabeth-thoms/564	?	?	This is about 'Elizabeth Thoms' - a different person altogether	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).

• Delete Does not meet WP:NTENNIS with play at low level ITF tournaments, no WTA. Sources don't meet WP:GNG for general notability either. LizardJr8 (talk) 14:42, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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