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The result was no consensus‎. Closing as no consensus to delete after weeks of relistings and discussions. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 09:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ella Baff

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Nothing that would qualify under the general notability guideline. Lots of problems with inadequate sourcing and WP:NOR. GuardianH (talk) 07:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Meets notability requirements including WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO and WP:Basic per available sources [3][4][5][6][7][8] Ednabrenze (talk) 07:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Has a lot of sources, and 3 or 4 of those sources passes the WP:DEPTH requirement, seems pretty notable if you ask me.

Ferdinand Marcos's dead (and weird) soul (talk) 07:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Arts. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A program officer for arts and culture is simply an office job inside the foundation, nothing notable that gets you an article. Sourcing is a mix of PR items and confirmation of appointments to various positions, none of which are notable. Oaktree b (talk) 21:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She is better known for her work as the executive and artistic director of the Jacob's Pillow dance festival, than for what she did while working at the Mellon Foundation. I am adding in details now. DaffodilOcean (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b - I invite you to re-consider the article now that I have made multiple additions and shifted the focus to make it clear that her primary impact is at Jacob's Pillow DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:02, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: New sources are more about Jacob's Pillow, not about this person. Not really helping prove notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For others to consider, I think the top three sources about Baff are these (selected because of the extended coverage that spans multiple years):^[1]^[2]^[3]. I further think that she meets WP:CREATIVE for her work with Jacob's Pillow (criteria #4, which in part says "The person's work (or works) has: ... (c) won significant critical attention ..." That being said. I look forward to hearing what others think. DaffodilOcean (talk) 15:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gere, David (1988-01-03). "Baff: Cal Performances point woman for dance". Oakland Tribune. p. 72. Retrieved 2024-07-13.
^ Gordon, Ronni (1998-04-19). "No rest for new head of Jacob's Pillow". The Republican. pp. [1], [2]. Retrieved 2024-07-13.
^ "After 17 Years of Devotion, Ella Baff Exits Jacob's Pillow". HuffPost. 2015-08-20. Retrieved 2024-07-12.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 08:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 09:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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