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The result was delete. Sandstein 18:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fated Genesis[edit]

Amateur-created RPG. Article has a highly promotional atmosphere. Linked sites do nothing to establish notability or clarify the nature of the 'attention' this uncompleted project has purportedly garnered in or out of its niche group. In fact, it's not even clear where on said sites the game is mentioned. Google of title turns up no relevant results. Suggested deletion as non-notable, possibly as promotional. Vianello (talk) 00:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete... apparent WP:CRYSTAL as under production, fails WP:RS due to lack of reliable sources (forums do not count), obvious WP:COI and possible WP:ADVERT as user name of primary editor (who has no other contributions) is same as creator of the subject of the article. The article is essentially just a "plot summary" without encyclopedic tone or notability. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 02:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, WP:CRYSTAL, WP:COI, WP:NN, WP:RS and WP:V. Take your pick. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 04:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hold it is apparent that the user is going to add references to establish notability, I would suggest waiting a period of 24 hour for te user to establish notability.([[User talk:Kurowoofwoof111|talk]]) (talk) 05:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's precisely why AfDs last five days. --Kinu ^t/_c 05:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, please excuse my ignorance.([[User talk:Kurowoofwoof111|talk]]) (talk) 05:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. In answer to Esradekan, all four. Minkythecat (talk) 13:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no notability shown at this point. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Hold please: I am currently on a restricted high school server so cannot yet access the sites mentioned to produce direct links to pages refering to my project. I intend to add these within the next 24 hours when I get to my home computer. I also intend to add more informative sections to the article detailing the game in a referential way. Please consider keeping my page. I also intend to add images/diagrams of gameplay as soon as I can. Please hold! And I do not believe it is a conflict of interest. It is intended by me to be a source of useful information about the game's mechanics, story and setting. Dark Gaia

Reply. Being the creator of the game makes its status as a conflict of interest somewhat unavoidable. Also, simply citing chatter about it on forums does not necessarily even prove notability on said forum, let alone in general. Something with broader applicability will be required. No need to ask for judgment to be held, though. All AfD submissions last for at least five days. - Vianello (talk) 04:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. As for references outside of the forums, I can only post a link to the actual application to my previous game to prove that I do make games, or post work in progress screenshots to show that it exists. I contest the CRYSTAL very strongly. There are pages on wikipedia already devoted to games upon which worlk hasn't even started. there are no screenshots etc etc. DARK GAIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark Gaia (talk • contribs) 10:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply. Whether the game exists or whether you make games is not at issue. Also, the status of other articles is not a valid appeal. Look at this section in the "Arguments to Avoid in Deletion Debates" article. I'm starting to run the risk of spamming this page, so if you have questions, please contact me on my talk page. - Vianello (talk) 20:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment.I have added some verifiable references from various sources, and I intend to add some images too, however I do not yet know how to have images displayed in a Wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark Gaia (talk • contribs) 11:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't see how this is more notable than any other amateur rpg out there.--CyberGhostface (talk) 14:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet another non-notable fan creation made with RPG Maker. Edward321 (talk) 01:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks a single reliable source to establish notability. Someone another 12:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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