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The result was snow keep. Geschichte (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Football in Paris

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This is the only article of its type in France. We have Football in France, but this article is the only one by city. I personally don't see how this article is notable; it's basically just a list of football clubs in Paris and their achievements. Is that really notable? I think it is WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Plus, the article is so poorly written and doesn't have a single source. Article could be improved massively, but it's really just not that important that I think we could simply delete it. We could also merge some of the text about Paris derbies in the Football in France article/individual club articles (like Red Star F.C.). Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I know I'm not supposed to do WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but...Football in London, Football in Moscow, Football in Berlin, Football in Munich, Football in Madrid, and Football in Seoul all exist, so it's hardly an anomoly. This article definitely needs some help, but there is cause to have a break-out article for a metro area's most prominent teams if they would overload the national article with detail better placed in a 'Football in (city)' article. Nate • (chatter) 00:48, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:20, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per Nate; needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 10:38, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lean towards keep As pointed out above we have other articles on football in cities. I knew about Football in London which needs some work. Football in Paris needs a lot of work. However I can see the subject passing GNG. I am sure there are lots of historic elements that can be added to the article. Govvy (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This article can be improved, not deleting. Footwiks (talk) 14:01, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - nomination statement is false, claiming that there are no other articles about football in cities. Article should be improved. Nfitz (talk) 23:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I think Paul Vaurie was saying that there were no similar articles about French cities rather than cities in general. That being said, Football in Berlin gives us a good idea of what Football in Paris could end up looking like with a lot of work. Because editing could make the article comply with our standards, I don't believe that there is a notability issue here so the article should be kept. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:26, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes GNG. Lorenzo the great (talk) 16:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:08, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:54, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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