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The result was keep. Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 21:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Francesco Morosini Naval Military School[edit]

Francesco Morosini Naval Military School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE in both English and Italian (old name and new name) is not convincing about notability. A merge with Italian training ship Amerigo Vespucci might be an alternative for deletion. The Banner talk 15:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Italy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Notable institution and enough sourcing to meet WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you really think that an unsourced article has enough sources??? The Banner talk 10:29, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The requirement is for sources to WP:NEXIST, not to be in the article! A quick Google search finds many sources about this school. WP:BEFORE should be carried out before nominating for deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Read the nomination. And yes, I know you wish to keep school-articles without regard to its quality, conten or source-wise. The Banner talk 14:01, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

        Whatever User:Necrothesp or User:The Banner or User:Jacona wishes is not important. What is important is Wikipedia policies and guidelines. In this case, the article has no sources, which vails verifiability. But the notability requirement is expressed at this guideline as well. The article needs improvement, and needs it very badly. Without verification it should be deleted. User:Necrothesp, could you at least post the top two or three articles that you believe establish notability under the general notability guideline so we know what sources exist, not just a vague belief that someone on the internet says sources exist? Thanks! Jacona (talk) 14:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Notable institution very well known. I have added the Official Italian Navy Web Page as source and a book in the bibliography section. Nicola Romani (talk) 14:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Previously nominated for deletion as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/F. Morosini Military Naval School, result was keep. Jacona (talk) 13:24, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Better search terms. Much more came up by searching for "Școala Navală Militară Francesco Morosini" or Morosini+Naval+School. Jacona (talk) 13:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Feel free to improve the article. But for the WP:BEFORE I used the English and the old and new Italian name, as stated in the4 nomination. The Banner talk 14:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks. I would comment that you could have also improved the article instead of just trying to delete it, as those search terms bring up quite a few results. I have added a notables section, and put in a bunch of references, sorry they're bare-url as I hate to spend much time improving an article another editor wants to eliminate. I also used the former name "Collegio Navale della Gioventù Italiana del Littorio", for which I found many Italian sources, that I haven't tried to add to the article as yet. There are around a dozen sources now in the article. There is also an 11-part video series about life in the school, directed by an Italian who has an article on the Italian Wikipedia. I don't speak Italian. Jacona (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• @The Banner An important aid in searching is to not keep the quotes. The school is often referred to without "Francesco" and with the words in a different order. Perhaps you could revisit your before and see if you can find additional sources. Jacona (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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