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additional reliable sources have been added. this person is the founder of a well known Israeli law firm. One of the partners in the law firm is a former Supreme Court judge. Please consider removing the deletion notice. thank you. Malevs (talk) 06:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is 79.182.145.96 (talk ·contribs) you, or someone else with the firm? There are lots of well-known law firms all over the world, and Wikipedia is not the place to advertise them. Doctalk06:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not work at the firm and have no connection other than knowing people in the firm. not many firms have former Supreme Court judges as partners in them so I believe this is a noticeable distinction. Malevs (talk) 06:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any idea how many law firms there are in my country alone, let alone yours? We do not advertize law firms here as a rule, as they are generally not notable. Except for the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe. Doctalk07:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
there are currently 109 lawyers from Israel listed on Wikipedia and also 15 Israeli law firms. Some of which are not more noticeable than this individual's law firm - for example Shavit Bar-On Gal-On Tzin Yagur. Malevs (talk) 07:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That last article you linked doesn't even have one source to back up anything on its page, and is ripe for deletion as well as blatant advertising. This isn't about any one country. Every company all over the world would probably just love to have their own WP page, but WP:WAX is not an argument to pursue as a reason for yours. Actual notability is what's important, and this is not a site to build your status as a company through Google hits. Doctalk07:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do believe that someone who owns a law firm together with a Supreme Court judge is something noticeable. There are not many, if at all, cases like this in Israel. Also, per your comment, please note that this is not my company and I gain no personal benefit from this being listed on WP. Malevs (talk) 07:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rewrite a little. I agree that being the senior partner in a firm this notable is notable. The accusations of spamming one's own firm appear unjustified. I decry the attitude expressed that we should generally not include law firms; together with the "counterexample" given in that comment, I consider that to look a little like prejudice against a profession. The argument that there are more notable law firms yet is not evidence that this one is not notable . I recognize the difficult of distinguishing notability in this field, but I consider the partnership with Eliyahu Winograd and the position at the ICC adequate criteria here. DGG ( talk ) 05:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
@ DGG - I said we don't advertise law firms here, just like we don't advertise every other company in every other profession that exists simply because it exists/existed at one time. It has to be notable first, not later. Let's look at two very famous criminal defense lawyers in America, F. Lee Bailey and Alan Dershowitz. Both highly notable attorneys... but are their law firms notable enough for their own articles? Apparently not. Are any of the partners in those law firms notable enough to have their own page simply because they were a partner with those famous lawyers? Apparently not, again. As TJRC says below: notability is not inherited. If every law firm in the world had their own page - this would be a law firm wiki. Doctalk05:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No indication of notability. The arguments in favor of notability boil down to (1) Eliyahu Winograd is notable; (2) Eliyahu Winograd is a partner in Gideon Fisher & Co; therefore Gideon Fisher & Co is notable; (3) Gideon Fisher is a partner in Gideon Fisher & Co., therefore Gideon Fisher is notable. This is WP:NOTINHERITED2. TJRC (talk) 22:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.