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The result was redirect to Technophobia. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:36, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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This article uses the DSM-5 for references, and yet also states, "Internet phobia has yet to be classified in the DSM-5 alongside specific phobia and social phobia." It's not in the DSM-5. The cited pages are faked, or are rather about agoraphobia. The article consists of WP:OR and this silly source. The citation template for the source states " 'Internet phobia'. 'Internet phobia' from Baidu Baike." But the title of the source is "Cibobobia." Google "cibobobia," and see what you get. Nada. Further, the source begins by stating, "With the advent of the Internet age, democratic participation and information disclosure are getting higher and higher, as if everything was observed with a magnifying glass. It is understood that many officials have a lot of fear, but the most fearful is the network. Recently, some local officials have reported to the People’s Forum reporters that many local cadres now have different levels of 'network' fear, and they are worried that personal information, job omissions or irregularities will be exposed by the network and will be out of control." I'm not sure if this Wikipedia article is a hoax, since more than one reference in it has "Agoraphobia" in the title and the sources are about agoraphobia in those cases rather than "Internet phobia," which shows that those titles weren't faked with "Internet phobia," but it is a likely hoax. It is either a hoax or a well-meaning entry, but the sources are about agoraphobia and generalized anxiety. I see no WP:Reliable sources for "Internet phobia." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:55, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Clicking on the search links above, I do see a few sources using the term "Internet phobia," but not in the way that this Wikipedia article uses the term and goes into detail about it, and the mentions are usually passing mentions. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:47, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Text contains numerous references to the DSM-5 as a source, but the actual pages referenced are for Agoraphobia. This is, at best, synthesis and at worst, intentional falsification in the bibliography in the furtherance of a hoax or poorly reasoned WP:OR. Most other sources similarly on investigation are used fraudulently, and do not point to anything corroborating the article topic.Legitimus (talk) 12:22, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The DSM-5 reference is entirely about agoraphobia. There is no mention of "internet phobia". PubMed has nothing at all about "internet phobia". The Baidu reference is a wiki. It is unsuitable as a source. The Cochrane database reference is about agoraphobia. The Lancet reference does not mention "internet phobia" either. While four other books are referenced in the article, I don't have easy access to any of them. Despite this, I would be surprised if any of them support notability of "internet phobia". Axl ¤ [Talk] 14:01, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding book references, which I chased down: 'Elster' (2009) is merely the etymology of "phobia." 'Solove' (2004) has no page reference, but regardless, makes no mention of phobias at all and it is mere a book on digital privacy. 'Buss' (1980) literally pre-dates the internet as we know it and is a book about social anxiety generally. 'Wyatt' (2008) is yet another that only points to agoraphobia.Legitimus (talk) 14:14, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Technophobia Yup references are not about the subject in question. I also checked the DSM5... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:52, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- To avoid confusion, note that Doc James's original vote was to redirect the article to the Phobia article. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:09, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Do not redirect. Redirect to technophobe (see also comment below to User:Coolabahapple) It is original research with likely no notability whatsoever, if it even exists as a standalone disorder - which is extremely unlikely, in my view. It looks very much like it is a hoax, quite probably created in good faith though. The very small number of book sources available (which I read the preview pages using the term) are all using “internet phobia” as a descriptor for people (particularly the elderly) who lack confidence in utilising technology or people who are afraid of online dating sites because of horror stories, etc. There is not one source that describes it as a mental disorder. We don’t create articles on this basis, so effectively there is a total of zero sources.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 18:47, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]- delete per all the above--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 19:10, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, as a possible wikireader search term could this be a redirect to Technophobia? also, heres a newsweek article: "Diagnosis Internet Phobia" so although not an official (DSM-5) term, has been used in the popular press? Coolabahapple (talk) 09:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, that makes sense, I have struck and rewrote the redirect part of my vote above.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 12:15, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirecting it there would work. But like I stated at WP:Med, some of these phobia articles are not phobias in the clinical sense. An IP touched on this at Talk:Technophobia, where the IP stated, "The introductory two paragraphs seem particularly biased. While there are people who have a psychological fear of technology, the majority of the time the term technophobia is used it's referring to people who take a principled stance against technology, as shown by the rest of the article with Luddites and Anabaptist groups. While psychological adversity to technology is a thing, this article should atleast make an explicit distinction between the two." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:51, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Think of how homophobia is a societal matter rather than a clinical matter...except for when it involves physical and/or sexual violence. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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