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The result was Withdrew by nominator. Might have some hope. Let's AGF and wait a week or so.. SarahStierch (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Downing[edit]

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This Union Army soldier gets various mentions, particularly for an attack on a band of Native Americans[1][2] and a more detailed bio by possibly a descendent.[3] However, he fails WP:SOLDIER as far as I can see. The April 1864 attack was relatively small and he is not even mentioned in the Sand Creek massacre article. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not notable. Intothat darkness 15:08, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, no indication this meets WP:SOLDIER or WP:GNG (though if someone more knowledgeable on the topic adds a mention of Downing to Sand Creek massacre I'd support redirecting this there). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 10:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Sadly, there are other references about Downing but that doesn't change the notability issue. I would recommend deleting this content. If anything, Downing should be mentioned in the article about the massacre; he shouldn't have his own article. Chris Troutman (talk) 05:07, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw nomination for now. Well, this is embarrassing. I did some more digging, and I now believe that he may be notable, not as a soldier, but as a civic leader in Denver.[4][5][6] I'm going to take a shot at expanding his article. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:05, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Still not 100% sure that he's really notable. Most of those sources still seem to make him notable based on either Sand Creek or his affiliation with Chivington, but not for anything he did on his own. Intothat darkness 15:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As the nomination is being withdrawn by the nominator; I found a source for the Baronet in the process... but I suspect more primary and secondary sources are to be found in Google archives. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:25, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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