The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Hettwer[edit]

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• Delete Hell in a Bucket (talk) 13:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 14:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Artist in my opinion is not a notable artist.Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: a show at the Walker would make him a notable artist. However, my understanding is that his widow is petitioning to have his work shown at the Walker [1] and that the one-night memorial "show" may have been privately commissioned since it took place in the Walker's "Skyline Room", a room for receptions and functions within the Walker's restaurant facilities [2]. This is quite something else than a curated retrospective, as the article currently implies. The rest of the references do not appear to support notability as an artist either, being mainly focused on his tragic death. Enki H. (talk) 17:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No WP:RS, non-notable. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The show was held in the Skyline Room due to the fact that it took place less than three weeks after the artists death. There would have been no time to coordinate a larger show in that time frame. The petition that is being circulated is to have the artists work accepted into the museum’s permanent collection, not just shown there. There are over 500 signatures on the Facebook petition, more than 1,000 handwritten signatures and a separate online petition has just been created.

KARE 11 news, the NBC affiliate in Minneapolis has just conducted a day long interview with the artist’s wife in his studio and at their home which was entirely dedicated to the artists work. This segment is expected to air within the next two weeks.

Minneapolis/St Paul Magazine has also been in contact with the artist's widow to conduct an interview for an article that they are preparing on the artists impact on the art community.

The University of Minnesota is setting up a scholarship in the artists name for new students pursuing a career in the arts. The Jeff Hettwer Scholarship is expected to be live on the U of M website by the end of the coming week.

These items have not yet been added to the page as they have not yet been published.MNartist (talk) 18:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, perhaps you should wait until thias is done then to creat this article. As is artist is not notable. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 19:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, Numerous media references related to both art and death, major tv network coverage; how notable does one need to be! Also, death and circumstances surrounding it, add to notability in many cases! The amount of petition signatures and hits on memorial website clearly demonstrate "notability"!Beo1231 (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet of MNartist; !=vote struck and both accounts blocked. Blueboy96 20:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• • 'COmment'Bold text, Cough sockpuppet, Cough Hell in a Bucket (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment LOL, lots of emotion surrounding the death of such a talented young artist.

In keeping with the terms of use do you feel that the inclusion of the articles mentioned and the Jeff Hettwer scholarship satisfy the standard of notabililty?MNartist (talk) 20:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no.Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:06, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete--the only coverage I could find is directly related to the crash and does not discuss the artist as an artist (or substantiate the claim that he was an "accomplished artist"). More's the pity, but WP is not a memorial. If this is to be deleted, then with no prejudice toward recreation--perhaps MNartist is right and more will come out. Delete, no salt. Drmies (talk) 20:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for now. I can't find evidence that Hettwer meets the criteria at WP:ARTIST, or that he has gotten significant press notice for his art (not for his death). However, there have been occasions when an artist has become more notable after his death; no prejudice against creating an article about him if his art later attracts the attention of art writers, or is significantly exhibited in a way that would demonstrate his lasting importance as an artist. There is no deadline. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:07, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest wp:snow closeHell in a Bucket (talk) 21:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mind leaving it open for a few more days; maybe some art-savvy user will notice something we missed. I'm always glad to see an article saved from deletion... -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OMG the world is going to end, you didn't do what I wanted. LOl Okie dokie by me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hell in a Bucket (talk • contribs) 21:21, June 28, 2009

• Comment. The creator of this article has been blocked temporarily, but is still making a good-faith effort to improve the sourcing of this article- reviewing editors might find something of use in the discussion happening on his talk page. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep particularly pending the Walker, an important institution...Modernist (talk) 13:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you consider that this appears not to have been curated by the Walker, but a private function on their premises? Or do you mean by "pending": let's see if the petition to get his work into the Walker is successful? Enki H. (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response Given the memorial by local sponsors, and the grassroots support, lets see if the Walker collects and/or responds to the petition...Modernist (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Local notability only. Wikipedia is not a memorial. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The memorial show really doesn't impress me as notable. Where were the shows before he died? Niteshift36 (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.