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The result was keep. PeterSymonds (talk) 20:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jet upset

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Unreferenced for over two years, fails verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 11:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

keep

Term appears to be defined here: http://books.google.com/books?id=MpUgAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22Jet+upset&ei=RUagSPbRNIryiwGP67H7BA, but I can't see the definition. Same with the book Iraq, Lies, Cover-ups, And Consequences which defines and discusses the term.
It also appears to see a fair bit of use. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS176US236&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Jet%20upset&sa=N&tab=np. Hobit (talk) 14:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above (again)... This is getting silly. Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

obvious redirect to Aviation accidents and incidents as it is a neologism/comparatively far less often used term for exactly the same subject matter -[1] over 3000 news stories for 'aviation accident' as compared to 27 for 'jet upset'.[2] Sticky Parkin 19:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A 'jet upset' and an 'aviation accident and incident' are NOT the same thing. Many accidents/incidents have nothing to do with jet upsets, it would be very confusing to link the two. MadScot666 (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - nothing to do with aviation accidents other than as a possible cause. Well-known phenomenon amongst anyone who flies jets. Describes a marked attitude and/or altitude excursion caused by the aircraft going out of trim, autopilot problem or insentitive use of controls (especially rudder) at high speed. Also have found a reference: Brian Moynahan, Airport International, Published by Pan 1978, p184. Brilliantine (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Well stated. Wikiwikikid (talk) 14:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the article again, it needs a lot of cleanup. It seems to describe only one possible type of jet upset. Brilliantine (talk) 14:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then a cleanup tag should be included, but it shouldn't be removed. Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quite agree, and am standing by my !vote. Brilliantine (talk) 15:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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