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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 23:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Atlassian as one article more than sufficient to cover all of their products. the company has made Wiki pages as some corporate blog for each of their products. Wiki is not a brochure. references are mainly their own and it is motivated by their PR/ digital marketing agency itself. and their articles were questioned for being written by close association of the company. Light2021 (talk) 07:10, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are multiple books about Jira published by O'Reilly Media and Pakt. The books have names like Practical JIRA Administration, JIRA Essentials - Third Edition, and Mastering JIRA. These books are all independent of the company and cover Jira in-depth. Cunard (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, users involved in the original AfD didn't provide any sources at the time to back their keeps votes with. Hopefully they do this time. Since a good portion of the ones provided by Cunard and in the article, along with Cunard's quotes are are suspect and trivial. Otherwise, this will just go to another AfD in a few more years. It's better to just settle it now instead by finding some actually usable sources IMO. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:11, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately we don't vote in delation discussions. Secondly, your argument is about the sources in the article. You ignored all of the sources (books) that I provided and all those that Andrew provided. Now, why was I pinged? Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously. I use the "vote" because its simpler and saves everyone time in reading then it would be going on the long tangent it would take for a more in-depth "true" description of the process. Everyone who's opinions matter, of which for me at least yours isn't included in, gets what I mean anyway. On the sourcing, if by Andrew you mean Cunard, the problem with him/her is WP:THREE or whatever it is. Instead of just providing the three sources that it would only take to establish notability he/she canvasses us repeatedly a ton of them that are usually not usable and then expects us to sift through the garbage to find the ones that are. Which it isn't on us to do. Same goes for the quotes. We don't need 50 mediocre sources for this, Just three good ones. And he/she has repeatedly refused to just provide them in-stead of ref-bombing. Personally, I'm not going to spend my day sifting through his/her trash to find something usable. Its not our jobs. The ones I did look at weren't good though. Maybe the 49th would be, but likely not and I have better things to do with my time then waste it trying to find out. I'm everyone here, including you, would agree that "Finding sources" doesn't mean "do a 1/1 word for word recreation in the AfD of everything you find on Google." Especially when it comes to the quotes, but also with the sources. Adamant1 (talk) 17:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, I see who you were talking about with Andrew now. I usually just see the snake emoji and associate Andrew the user with that. Anyway, the few sources he provided that I looked at were blog posts. Which he should really know aren't acceptable for establishing notability. So, i'd say the same thing applies in his case as Cunards. Either take the time to provide good sources or don't expect us to sift through the trash to find the goods ones. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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