The result was no consensus. Those arguing for the deletion of these article make a valid point with regard to WP:ATHLETE. On the other hand, a very plausible case under the general notability guideline was presented by those arguing to keep the articles. A similar number of people supported each of these positions (particularly if the "per noms" are excluded). Thus, there is clearly no consensus to delete these articles. It is also very difficult to consider the notability of 6 different people under the GNG in the same AfD, so it would be best if any future nominations were made separately for each of these individuals (it seems looking at the articles and sources presented that some may be much more notable than others). Cool3 (talk) 19:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable soccer player who has no senior international caps, appearances for a professional club, or Olympic experience, thus failing all points of WP:FOOTYN GauchoDude (talk) 06:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:
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OK, let's start over. I obviously didn't explain myself well to begin with. According to Wikipedia:Notability (people)
“ | A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject. | ” |
“ | "A person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included...
Should a person fail to meet these additional criteria, they may still be notable under Wikipedia:Notability." (bold is original) |
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It baffles my mind that people can effectively say "all pros are notable and no amateurs are." This is absurd, as the top college players are (barring major injury or personal choice) sure to have professional careers that are more significant that the bare minimum "1 minute on the field in 1 game" criteria.
All of the players nominated here are in top couple % of all college players as evidenced by the significant amount of coverage they have received in reliable sources. The following is a representative (but by no means exhaustive) list of sources for each player:
Obviously each player has a different level of notability, but all appear to have sufficient coverage to warrant inclusion. That is unless one is arguing that no college player can ever be notable, regardless of sources/accomplishments. I would appreciate it if future comments talked about the individual players instead of just saying "delete all - only pros can be notable." --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]