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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 11:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kasimir Kaskisuo

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Seems to currently fail WP:GNG and fails WP:NHOCKEY (all Rookie first team in Div I NCAA isn't notable enough, not drafted, no other awards that I can find or currently mentioned in article). Probably way WP:TOOSOON. Yosemiter (talk) 01:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As you wrote, it looks like a case of WP:TOOSOON, with the creation of the article having happened on the same day as the Maple Leafs announcement (which I believe in itself isn't yet enough for notability). --Mr. Magoo (talk) 01:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Magoo and McBarker: Announcement only qualifies as WP:ROUTINE. Yosemiter (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Personally I vote to keep. The team has announced Kaskisuo will join the Toronto Marlies for the rest of the season, which would make him eligible for an article. Spilia4 (talk) 19:58, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Spilia4: According to WP:NHOCKEY he needs 90 games for a likely keep. Otherwise he need to pass WP:GNG and at this point I cannot find anything other than WP:ROUTINE. Although, being that he is in the Toronto market, this is likely just WP:TOOSOON if he stays with the Marlies next season (giving him significant coverage) and doesn't get pushed down to Solar Bears (where he would get significantly less coverage). Yosemiter (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Yosemiter:Thanks, was not aware of the 90 games rule for minor league goaltenders. Kaskisuo broke the team record for most shutouts in a season (source) but not sure if that would be considered a "preeminent honor". I still say we keep the article until the NCAA awards come out (should be in a week or so) as Kaskisuo has a good shot at being on the First All-Star team. If he doesn't win anything, I agree with a deletion. Spilia4 (talk) 20:21, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Spilia4: Fair enough. He does seem a reasonable candidate for NCHC First Team All-Star. (I may have been in error here since the user who created Kaskisuo's article made a series of TooSoon articles and he made this one including a Copy-n-Paste job of Tuuka Rask's statistics and non-significant sources). I did a bit more searching and found that the NCHC has already announced the All-conference teams. There are no other "preeminent honors" in which he is in contention for so now he must absolutely pass GNG in order to be a Keep. Yosemiter (talk) 20:33, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NHOCKEY. Mdtemp (talk) 08:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Even if he had made the NCHC all-conference team, that still wouldn't meet NHOCKEY, which very strictly defines NCAA collegiate "preeminent honors" as Division I First Team All-American. Ravenswing 12:55, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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