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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't find any evidence this band meets inclusion criteria, the awards are loosely sourced and hardly notable and the article has only ever been sourced to non-rs. The single source available now is a hyper-local e-paper that is more fluff based on their myspace page than significant indepth coverage that has been subject to editorial oversight. Fails GNG. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment that was a fast WP:BEFORE in one minute or three, the Aquarian Weekly is a reliable source for music but agree more is needed, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 13:33, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't know why you assume I decided only today to AfD this. I have an entire list on a custom watchlist and notepad of articles that haven't ever been up to par. I did my before, I found nothing, I nominated. The reliability of the source you mentioned isn't the issue, it's the reliability of the piece itself and the fact that it's straight up puffery with no editorial oversight, taken from their defunct myspace page. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 08:01, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 08:01, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The second album Straight to the Blood was released via EMI Records, source: [1], Paint the Devil was released via Membran Records. --Goroth (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• They even had a lot media coverage in German music press with reviews from Metal.de, Musikreviews.de, Stormbringer.at, Powermetal.de, and other media according to their press kit. They toured Europe and played festivals in Germany like Tells Bells in 2010, see [2]. Here is an interview with the band at The-pit.de. But the article needs to be re-written in my opinion. --Goroth (talk) 20:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how anything in their press kit helps. Releasing an album under a notable label shows significance but not notability. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete lacks sources, fails WP:GNG. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I’m a bit hesitant to weigh in as I don’t read German. However, with unsourced name drops of NFL and movie soundtracks, there is clearly some disingenuous hype at play here. One keep vote claims their second album “Straignt to the Blood” was released by EMI. But my further investigation shows that it was in fact recorded for the label Split Nail Records, which as near as I can tell is the groups own self-release label (a google search shows no other artists associated with the label.) The EMI connection is merely through that companies massive distribution services (something many releases can claim) which is a world of difference from being on a major or significant independent label. All the German language sources apparently are niche on-line reviews of this same self-produced album, not a difficult feat per WP:RUNOFTHEMILL. Given no significant independent coverage and a lack of third party sources I say delete. Maybe with some legwork the article could be improved (the band has a modest social media following indicating a legitimate following within their genre) but it appears the band itself—per their website—have already accounted for everything that’s out there and it’s all pretty minor, routine and or self-promotional, per the nomination. ShelbyMarion (talk) 12:50, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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